10% restocking fees / more SIM info

RchGrav

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Lets say for example you just want to buy and test out the iPhone just to see if you like it, then you decide that AT&T doesn’t work out or you just don’t like the phone. You ought to keep in mind that the return policy is going to be different for the iPhone. AT&T return policy normally gives you 30-days to decide. However, that’s not the case here; you only have 14 days, but this is the real groin kicker. Even if you return the iPhone within the 14-day window you will only receive 90% of the money you paid. Apple is keeping 10% for restocking fees. So really think hard before you just buy it, because 10% is a lot.

Also, I’m sure you already know this but the iPhone will have special provisions that will only allow the SIM of the designated phone number that purchased the iPhone to work. For example, my buddy Joe can’t simply remove the SIM card from my iPhone, slop his in and have it just work. He would be able to make phone calls, but that is it. Other features such Visual Voicemail, Internet, and even iTunes will not work. So this is sort of good in a way, acting as a lock-down mode in the event the iPhone gets stolen or lost.
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http://www.myitablet.com/testing-ou...tocking-fee-more-iphone-sim-details-25936.php
 

wjp09

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Good and bad. Lets see what else they do.
 

jda182

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do you know if i can take the sim card out of the iPhone and use it in another phone? for when i do something where i might damage my phone so i don't break the iPhone
 

RchGrav

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do you know if i can take the sim card out of the iPhone and use it in another phone? for when i do something where i might damage my phone so i don't break the iPhone
From the sound of the article you may be able to move the iPhone sim into a regular phone and have it work, or a regular sim into an iPhone and have it partially work. Its possible that the SIM is the same size and remains GSM backwards compatible, however you may need an actual iPhone SIM w/ iPhone provisioning in order to activate all of the iPhones advanced features.

Thats my take on the situation. But it's only speculation, educated speculation, but still speculation. ;)
 

jda182

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thats fine, all i want to do is be able to switch iPhone SIM into an old cheap phone occasionally, when i do something where i might break the iPhone. all i want to do on the cheap phone is be able to make phone calls and if possible text. so hopefully that will be possible.
 

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Nobody on here really knows whether the SIM will work in other phones besides the iPhone. That's something we'll have to wait until Friday to find out.
 

RchGrav

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Nobody on here really knows whether the SIM will work in other phones besides the iPhone. That's something we'll have to wait until Friday to find out.

I'm only going by the fact that the source stated in the article that you could actually put another GSM phone's SIM into the iPhone, but ONLY the phone features would work, other features such as DATA, VOICEMAIL, and even IPOD would cease to function. If that is the case, then the reverse should be true also, using an iPhone SIM in a regular old GSM phone.

This could be due to a number of things, it could be something actually in the iPhone SIM that "unlocks" the iPhone's features, or it could be due to the fact that in order for a GSM sim to fully function in an iPhone it would have to be provisioned into AT&T's iPlan feature set to function properly.

There has been a lot of rumor that there is SOMETHING different about the iPhone sim itself. These rumors range from the SIM actually being completely different in terms of the size, to the SIM just being different. These rumors are most likely based in fact on some level, but you know how that works. Sorta like whisper down the line.

Now, here's my take on the situation. The iPhone is a GSM phone, most likely the SIM will be the same size, and also adhere to the basic GSM SIM feature set.

The word on the street is that "When you get your iPhone you will NEED to use the included iPhone SIM... If you have an existing AT&T account, you will not be able to use your existing SIM into the iPhone and have it work properly."

This does not however mean that all GSM compatibility has been completely thrown out the window, as some have come to assume.
 

RyanFavre

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if i can't use my old sim in my new iPhone i'm going to be pretty pissed. talk about stupid, the whole point of sim cards is its a universial technology for all cell phones.

Not gonna have fun entering all my contacts information all day.
 

RchGrav

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if i can't use my old sim in my new iPhone i'm going to be pretty pissed. talk about stupid, the whole point of sim cards is its a universial technology for all cell phones.

Not gonna have fun entering all my contacts information all day.
The numbers can be transferred to the new SIM.