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  1. itsamikey

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    I was shocked to find out that Siri won't call 911! Is there a work around? Can I have a contact called emergency with 911 for the number, or will it not dial a 3 digit number.
     
  2. MoneyMaker79

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    I just tested Siri by telling her to "Call 411" which is basically a phone book for businessses etc. She called the number. If you are still unable to get her to call 911 by saying "Call 911" you can set a contact called "Emergency", and put the phone number as 911. I tested it, but with 411.
     
  3. Rafagon

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    According to this source and also this source, Siri cannot dial 911.

    Note that the second link I provided above will require logging in, in order to view the page. However, I've taken a snapshop of the screen to allow you to circumvent this requirement if you should prefer not logging in.

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    MoneyMaker79 's workaround may work, however...

    UPDATE:

    Siri will not call 911 even if you add a contact with that number. Michelle tried it; however, newer versions of iOS have been released since her testing, which may produce different results.
     
  4. MoneyMaker79

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    Interesting. I don't think I want to test it out though. Too risky.


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  5. Rafagon

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    Just tested it. She refused to call and then spit in my face.

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  6. AmandaKess

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    Wow..I guess it's to avoid false calls.
     
  7. Rafagon

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    I don't see why Apple provides an Emergency Call option via their iOS software that bypasses the Passcode Lock, anyways. It would take a bona-fide owner of the iPhone in question four extra taps on numbers to type in their password lock (assuming they are using the Simple Passcode option), right before dialing 911 (or whatever the digits for an emergency call are in their country). One can assume that an authorized user of the cell phone in question is quite adept at tapping those four extra numbers that they've designated as their Passcode speedily enough to dial "911" after tapping out four numbers on the keypad.

    If someone has stolen a cell phone, should they even have the right to make an Emergency Call? It's a freakin' stolen iPhone. Why should they even have access to any life-saving measures provided by an Emergency Call? The certainly aren't worthy of it.
     
  8. Rafagon

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    If someone steals my iPhone and they suddenly find themselves in an emergency, I would certainly not want them using my stolen iPhone to call 911 and save their pathetic life.
     
  9. JIS

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    Okayyyy, I don't have my phone and my friend does. They are unconscious. Emergency call with a locked screen could save their life.
     
  10. RoofMonkey

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    They will be able to make a 911 call. In the US it is law that any cellphone can initiate a 911 call, sim or no sim, locked or not.


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  11. up10ad

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    I think the FCC actually requires that a 911 call be routed whether a phone is a subscriber or not, but they don't specifically address the issue of locked phones. The three FCC requirements are:
    1. Route the call if it is made
    2. Transmit the device phone number and tower location
    3. Transmit the phone location accurate to 50-300 meters
     
  12. Assumes

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    Being a 911 dispatcher, it's is law for all of North America for any cell phone whether they be activated or not have 911 capabilities. Depending on the type of cell used, some may or may not provide GPS coordinates. Today's cells, all have GPS features and even if you were to turn off GPS settings, we still get readings. Just FYI. :)


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  13. Europa

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    Can you quickly and easily locate TracFone and other non-GPS cell phone call coordinates with tower triangulation? I know it isn't as precise as GPS.

    Have you seen the new movie "The Call"? *Spoilers to follow*

    I was just curious what your thoughts are regarding the realism with the lack of ability to locate the coordinates when a TracFone that was used to call 911 in the movie. The phone didn't have GPS, but I'm still guessing they could have easily pinpointed it to within 500 feet with tower triangulation. In the movie they had to call the TracFone carrier to obtain authorization for something before they could locate the orgin of call, and they never could obtain that. That seemed highly improbable considering the emergent circumstances.
     
  14. Assumes

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    Well normally if and this is depending if a tower has the ability to populate locations, we would call the carrier to have them ping the phone. We would also get billing information as well. Believe it or not, but records are kept for years when it comes to phone numbers. It's quite interesting to see who also had the phone number lol. As for the movie.. It's TV. Can't believe everything you see but the stress involved in this job is ridiculous. We are the forgotten people because really, we are the link from you and the help you need. I love my job :) it's quite rewarding.


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  15. Assumes

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    Oh. And also, some older phones.. I'm talking like 10yrs old and more are what's called a phase one. Meaning, we basically get nothing. They are usually the old analog phones. To my understanding, I don't believe they are supported anymore.


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  16. Europa

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    Thanks. I wasn't sure if calling the carrier was really necessary or if 911 operators could automatically see that info without making a carrier call. About how long does it typically take to get that information from them and how accurate are the triangulation coordinates?
     
  17. Assumes

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    Seconds lol


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  18. mango44

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    Wait, so why can't we save 911 in our contacts?
     
  19. Rafagon

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    Of course you can save it. You just can't have Siri make the call for you...
     
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