A Little Perspective Please..

Norwest

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Just to keep things in perspective. We've got arguably the coolest looking phone in the world but we are miles behind some other stuff in functionality. LIke the Nokia N95. In case you wonder why some people *might* giggle when you pull out the iPhone. To them (functionally) it does not measure up.

It doesn't look as good as the iPhone but it's a heck of a lot more functional. You just know their iPhone knockoff will also be.

And people wonder why we're a little impatient with Apple. This is the kind of stuff that if the iPhone had some of it, would make it the undisputed champ. But Apple is too ... conservative ... with actual useful features.

I'm giving them until about January of next year to start adding some apps and more functionality or I'm jumping ship. The "coolness" factor is wearing off... I need more functionality. I still trust it may be coming... I hope.

http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n95_8gb,demo

http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/m...ech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n95_8gb_en_R1.html

8 GB Memory
2.8 " screen
Integrated GPS
5 MP camera
30 fps video
TV output for playing videos on ... TV


Dual Transfer Mode (DTM) support for simultaneous voice and packet data connection in GSM/EDGE networks.

Integrated wireless LAN (802.11 b/g) and UPnP (Universal Plug and Play)
USB 2.0 via Mini USB interface and mass storage class support to support drag and drop functionality

Video resolutions: up to VGA (640x480) at 30 fps
Audio recording: AAC mono

Apple... you've got four months to show me some "functionality" progress or I'm gone. I gave you a shot. If I go through the next four months with "fixes" and no functional productive updates...

I'm looking elsewhere.

Giving me a function and cable (that plugs into the bottom) that allows playing my iTunes videos out to TV would be a good start.
 
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prmdbr

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Just to keep things in perspective. We've got arguably the coolest looking phone in the world but we are miles behind some other stuff in functionality. LIke the Nokia N95.

It doesn't look as good as the iPhone but it's a heck of a lot more functional. You just know their iPhone knockoff will also be.

And people wonder why we're a little impatient with Apple. This is the kind of stuff that if the iPhone had some of it, would make it the undisputed champ. But Apple is too ... conservative ... with actual useful features.

I'm giving them until about January of next year to start adding some apps and more functionality or I'm jumping ship. The "coolness" factor is wearing off... I need more functionality. I still trust it may be coming... I hope.

http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n95_8gb,demo

http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/m...ech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n95_8gb_en_R1.html

8 GB Memory
2.8 " screen
Integrated GPS
5 MP camera
30 fps video
TV output for playing videos on ... TV


Dual Transfer Mode (DTM) support for simultaneous voice and packet data connection in GSM/EDGE networks.

Integrated wireless LAN (802.11 b/g) and UPnP (Universal Plug and Play)
USB 2.0 via Mini USB interface and mass storage class support to support drag and drop functionality

Video resolutions: up to VGA (640x480) at 30 fps
Audio recording: AAC mono

Apple... you've got four months to show me some "functionality" progress or I'm gone. I gave you a shot. If I go through the next four months with "fixes" and not functional productive updates...

I'm looking elsewhere.

Couple questions:

Is this on ATT's network?
Cost?
 
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Norwest

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Couple questions:

Is this on ATT's network?
Cost?
Lowest price I've seen is $614. Highest around $750. Considering what it does (and what the iPhone doesn't do) it seems to be worth it. Especially considering you can't get a decent standalone GPS for less than about $250.

Here's the Engadget Hands-On & a link to the one availble now which is not 3g. I think the new one is.

This is list price. I'm sure it's not "price locked" like the iPhone. In other words with a new ATT contract you can probably get a phone like this for WAY cheaper than list.

If it's a Nokia it will be (should be) on the ATT network as all their other models are I believe.

I'm not sure if the 8gb model is available here yet. And no, it's not perfect. There are reports of a sluggish OS. "Slow" and "No" are two different things though. :)

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/08/29/nokia-n95-usbound-on.html

I love the iPhone form factor and the OS. It just doesn't do enough ... yet.

I'm hoping.
 

Twinnie

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I know a bit about this phone, I've had a little go on my mates as well.

The version available in the US right now is sort of a half-assed version they released before everyone suddenly became interested in smartphones that weren't Blackberries after the iPhone was released. It's basically the same one that was released here in Europe but since we operate on a different kind of 3G network they just stripped that out and didn't bother replacing it. Some European countries support EDGE so it already had that in, they're about to re-release a 3G version which should be available pretty soon. The event where they showed this Nokia iPhone thing is also the event where they officially announced the 8GB N95 so that may not be available for a few months yet, not suer what the current memory is in available models but it's hot swappable microSD so it's effectively unlimited so long as you can find a big enough memory card.

And yes the OS is a little slow, it's not that bad but it's no iPhone, it depends on how many apps you have running in the background. Actually, compared to the other S60 phones that are out the N95 is a vast improvement, so at least it's a problem they are aware of and working on. Nokia OSs have been slow for years now.

Personally I'm hoping the rumours about the N82 turn out to be accurate, seems like a smaller and more stylish N95:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/10/nokia-n81-and-n82-come-to-light/
It wouldn't surprise me if they're exactly as rumoured, Nokia couldn't keep a secret if their businesss empire depended on it. Probably something to do with the fact that like half of their country works for them, they pretty much own Finland you know (I'm not even joking, check Wikipedia).

*edit*
Get on a contract and you'll find someone will be subsidizing the cost of the N95, it'll be a dark day in Finland before you find Nokia signing a network exclusivity agreement.