I ordered (as some here know) the 8 to 30 pin after market adapters. So far, 1 works for charging ONLY. And the other does not work at all. So, off to the online Apple store I go to see exactly what they are supposed to do, and then off to ebay and Amazon I go to see what miracle claims exist. And now; still kinda lost. It seems the cables are for charging ONLY - that some will (maybe by accident) transmit music but that may be just luck? The adapter that plugs in direct (whatever it's called) is it supposed to transmit and receive information and permit charging? Most (all?) of us have peripheral devices which we use or like for music, radios, clocks, who knows what. Am I to believe that all that stuff is purely landfill material now? Please advise what the claims are, and what the realities are. I want to be able to charge the phone when necessary, at work, ok, I can do that with the one cable that works. I want to be able to plug into the existing car cable that I have for my Optima Hybrid and play and charge the phone (won't work at all with either cable I presently own). I want to use my altec lansing plug in desktop speaker system (whatever it's called) to play music - if it charges as well - that's a plus, it's not mandatory. Thanks!