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iPutz

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iOS 8.2 is available. I just started downloading the 8.2 update for installation.
 
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Ledsteplin

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Ok, so I have no interest in the Watch. I only use the Health app to keep my medical info. So what bugs did this update fix? What do I get for the 331 mb if space I give up?


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Rafagon

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Apple Watch app cannot be deleted, and, interestingly, does not show up in the list of apps at Settings > General > Usage > Manage Storage. I'm sure it's a small app, but crap, why take away my right to know its size?

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Ok, so I have no interest in the Watch. I only use the Health app to keep my medical info. So what bugs did this update fix? What do I get for the 331 mb if space I give up?


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Why do you say 331 MB… was that the size of your OTA update? That does not necessarily mean you're giving up all that space. Remember that some of the new code will be patched over the old code. Then again, if you calculated based on the change of free space as I did below, you're one step ahead of me.

I did a full update via iTunes. Before the update, I had 28.41 GB free.

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After the update, I have 28.69 GB free.

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The total footprint of iOS actually went down for me.
 
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Rafagon

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Anyone else having this issue after the update?

Settings > General > Usage > Manage Storage > Music freezes the Settings app for about 20 seconds. Then, the app full-on crashes and you're returned back to the home screen.
 

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From start to finish only took about 17 minutes. Like Rafagon, my total space used went very slightly down, by about 250 MB. Also tried to duplicate Rafagon's issue and am not finding a problem on my end. Good luck
 
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Rafagon

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Launch the Watch app, tap on "App Store", and you learn that the Apple Watch can be pre-ordered on:

"@@Month@@ @@Day@@"

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Way to make a good impression, Apple. Can't even get the undeletable companion app right.
 

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The story was the same with my iPad 3. The update took about 17 minutes and I gained some free space. I went from 8.22 GB free space before the update to 8.27 GB free. That's about a 51 MB gain in free space. Curious
 

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The story was the same with my iPad 3. The update took about 17 minutes and I gained some free space. I went from 8.22 GB free space before the update to 8.27 GB free. That's about a 51 MB gain in free space. Curious
You probably gain a bit of "other" back.


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Anyone else having this issue after the update?

Settings > General > Usage > Manage Storage > Music freezes the Settings app for about 20 seconds. Then, the app full-on crashes and you're returned back to the home screen.
That happens every time I delete an app there in "Manage Storage". Been like that a long time. What did you do on Music?


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Why do you say 331 MB… was that the size of your OTA update? That does not necessarily mean you're giving up all that space. Remember that some of the new code will be patched over the old code. Then again, if you calculated based on the change of free space as I did below, you're one step ahead of me.

I did a full update via iTunes. Before the update, I had 28.41 GB free.

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After the update, I have 28.69 GB free.

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The total footprint of iOS actually went down for me.
Yep! But I didn't check before I updated. So IDK how much actually changed.
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Rafagon

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That happens every time I delete an app there in "Manage Storage". Been like that a long time. What did you do on Music?
I used the Music app on iOS and iTunes on OS X normally. No weird stuff going on there. I added songs to iTunes, selected playlists I want to synchronize, then sync my iPhone to iTunes - phone connected to my iMac via USB cable. Nothing weird about the songs, as far as I'm aware. The songs are either iTunes purchases, imports of physical CDs I own (i.e. "ripping" the CDs), or, in a few rare cases, I extract the audio from a YouTube video using http://www.clipconverter.cc, a site which creates mp3 files of the audio from YouTube videos.
 
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Ledsteplin

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I used the Music app on iOS and iTunes on OS X normally. No weird stuff going on there. I added songs to iTunes, selected playlists I want to synchronize, then sync my iPhone to iTunes - phone connected to my iMac via USB cable. Nothing weird about the songs, as far as I'm aware. The songs are either iTunes purchases, imports of physical CDs I own (i.e. "ripping" the CDs), or, in a few rare cases, I extract the audio from a YouTube video using http://www.clipconverter.cc, which create an .mp3 files from a YouTube video.
Well, that was confusing. I just meant in your phone's settings >General >usage >Manage Storage ←What did you do there in "Manage Storage" to cause it to freeze like it did? Did you tap on Music? Delete anything? Forget your computer. What happened in settings on your phone?


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Well, that was confusing. I just meant in your phone's settings >General >usage >Manage Storage ←What did you do there in "Manage Storage" to cause it to freeze like it did? Did you tap on Music? Delete anything? Forget your computer. What happened in settings on your phone?
I already stated exactly what I did, in post #5, above. In that post, I wrote what I was doing and what was happening, to wit: "Settings > General > Usage > Manage Storage > Music freezes the Settings app for about 20 seconds. Then, the app full-on crashes and you're returned back to the home screen."

@Ledsteplin :

Here is a more explicit and step-by step account of what I'm doing and what is happening (I just tested it now and it's still crashing, one day after installation of iOS 8.2).

I tap on the Settings app on the home screen, then I tap on General (the gear icon), then I tap on Usage, then I tap on Manage Storage (below the Storage heading), then I tap on the Music menu item (the one that you see immediately below):

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After I tap on the Music menu item, the Settings app simply freezes, while the music item becomes grayed out (this part is normal; it is supposed to gray out to indicate you have selected it, except that a split-second later it's supposed to go "into" Music and give you a breakdown of how exactly your Music is occuping 18.2 GB (in my case) of space.

The bug that I am experiencing is causing the Music menu item to remain grayed-out while the Settings app freezes completely. About 20 seconds later, I am "thrown back" to the Home Screen. Here is a screenshot of the Music item grayed out. Again, it displays this and remains unresponsive for about 20 seconds, then I am "thrown back" to the Home Screen, indicating that the Settings app experienced an unrecoverable error and was terminated by iOS.

After tapping on music.PNG (thumbnail; please click to expand)

Incidentally, when I tap on the other options in that menu (like Videos and Photos & Camera), it does not freeze at all. It works just fine.

Hope this clarifies what I'm doing and experiencing.
 

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I have all of our ios devices updating now. My wife's older iPhone 4s seems to be further along than anything else and it was started after several others.
 

Ledsteplin

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I already stated exactly what I did, in post #5, above. In that post, I wrote what I was doing and what was happening, to wit: "Settings > General > Usage > Manage Storage > Music freezes the Settings app for about 20 seconds. Then, the app full-on crashes and you're returned back to the home screen."

@Ledsteplin :

Here is a more explicit and step-by step account of what I'm doing and what is happening (I just tested it now and it's still crashing, one day after installation of iOS 8.2).

I tap on the Settings app on the home screen, then I tap on General (the gear icon), then I tap on Usage, then I tap on Manage Storage (below the Storage heading), then I tap on the Music menu item (the one that you see immediately below):

View attachment 40944

After I tap on the Music menu item, the Settings app simply freezes, while the music item becomes grayed out (this part is normal; it is supposed to gray out to indicate you have selected it, except that a split-second later it's supposed to go "into" Music and give you a breakdown of how exactly your Music is occuping 18.2 GB (in my case) of space.

The bug that I am experiencing is causing the Music menu item to remain grayed-out while the Settings app freezes completely. About 20 seconds later, I am "thrown back" to the Home Screen. Here is a screenshot of the Music item grayed out. Again, it displays this and remains unresponsive for about 20 seconds, then I am "thrown back" to the Home Screen, indicating that the Settings app experienced an unrecoverable error and was terminated by iOS.

View attachment 40945 (thumbnail; please click to expand)

Incidentally, when I tap on the other options in that menu (like Videos and Photos & Camera), it does not freeze at all. It works just fine.

Hope this clarifies what I'm doing and experiencing.
Yeah! It's been freezing that way for a long time when I delete an app from there. So I'm not surprised another action would do the same way.


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