eMail explanation please

kewl!o

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Sorry to be behind the learning curve, but I have not used a cell phone for email. I have work + personal email (both Thunderbird, via Novell & Roadrunner respectively). I can check my personal email from work via a POP email site RR has.

So...I have read that something like "Yahoo! push email" is going to be required w/the iPhone. I read that to mean:

- It will work like my RR POP site - I can read it, but the messages stay in my account.

- When I run TB on my PC @ home, the email are pulled out of my account on the RR server.

Does this sound correct? If not, how do you see it working? (and what if anything do you recommend - Yahoo!, Gmail, ...)

Thanks!
K
 

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It supports standard POP and IMAP. The Yahoo! thing is only about push email (push only works with Yahoo!, not MS exchange). You should be able to setup the POP to not removed messages from server.
 

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It supports standard POP and IMAP. The Yahoo! thing is only about push email (push only works with Yahoo!, not MS exchange). You should be able to setup the POP to not removed messages from server.
I agree with this posters comments. I personally like to have my mobile device to "keep on server", as I like to use my desktop to manage my email. You should have both options with the iPhone.

-Chris
 

kewl!o

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just to be absolutely clear

It supports standard POP and IMAP. The Yahoo! thing is only about push email (push only works with Yahoo!, not MS exchange). You should be able to setup the POP to not removed messages from server.
What I'm hearing is that
- i can use my current email address
- if i configure the pop email on the iPhone to that same email address, but set it up to leave the mail on the server
- i can then pull the mail off to my PC whenever i want

Correct? If so, that's great...
 

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What I'm hearing is that
- i can use my current email address
- if i configure the pop email on the iPhone to that same email address, but set it up to leave the mail on the server
- i can then pull the mail off to my PC whenever i want

Correct? If so, that's great...
That's correct and that's a great solution - one I use.;)

-Chris
 

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Anyone still using Pop3 is in the dark ages. Ever since I switched over to IMAP, I haven't looked back. It allows you to sync all your mail in every computer you use. And the messages get flagged as you read them which might not sound like a big deal but you'll waste a considerable amount of time trying to find messages you didn't read yet. I anticipate those who use the iPhone will start replying back a fair amount as well. All those "re:" message are going to get old to weed through.

Anyone who spends $600 on a mobile device, $40 (?) a month for a data plan and doesn't have IMAP is insane in my opinion, especially nowadays when you get your own IMAP e-mail for about $20 year, on your own domain that you can use for life--and one that won't change if you change ISPs.

Especially if you have your own domain name(s), getting IMAP with your provider should be a no brainer. If your host won't do it, find somebody who will.
 

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Anyone still using IMAP is in the dark ages. Ever since I switched over to IMAP, I haven't looked back. It allows you to sync all your mail in every computer you use. And the messages get flagged as you read them which might not sound like a big deal but you'll waste a considerable amount of time trying to find messages you didn't read yet. I anticipate those who use the iPhone will start replying back a fair amount as well. All those "re:" message are going to get old to weed through.

If you own your own domain name, getting IMAP with your provider should be a no brainer. If your host won't do it, find somebody who will.

Anyone who spends $600 on a mobile device, $40 (?) a month for a data plan and doesn't have IMAP is insane in my opinion when you get your own IMAP e-mail for about $20 year, on your own domain that you can use for life--and one that won't change if you change ISPs.
Im assuming you mean "Anyone still using POP is in the dark ages". And while i agree that is a much 'suckier' protocal, not all services provide IMAP.
 

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oops, yeh... edited my message above...

If you subscribe to .Mac you already have IMAP btw... which might be worth it for iPhone customers especially the syncing features.
 

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I actually prefer POP over IMAP. If you rely on IMAP you have to trust your ISP. You have to trust them to have backups, to keep there servers operational, and not give your email to the Gubermentm, etc...

I prefer control over my eMail. The less time it is in my ISP hands the better. I want all my email downloaded to one central location that I control. I use IMAP for some accounts but for the real important ones I use POP.

Not sure what I will do with email and the iPhone. Propbably set it up with POP but to 'leave a copy on the sever' then suck it down to my main machine at night when I get home.

Here is a bigger question, will iPhone email allow you to setup multiple email accounts? Can I access my Gmail, Yahoo, and ISP email all from iPhone at the same time?

- SR
 

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oops, yeh... edited my message above...

If you subscribe to .Mac you already have IMAP btw... which might be worth it for iPhone customers especially the syncing features.

I REALLY wanna move to IMAP, but i'd also love to keep my Gmail account. I love their email service..(just like everything else they've done). I wish they would provide some sort of IMAP service..
 

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While I understand that, I have far too many computers that I use often for that to work. I need to have access to my old email no matter which machine I'm on.

Yeah, that I my big question too. I would assume it can do multiple, but I really want confirmation on that. It could be a deal killer for me.
 

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How tough is it to set up the .mac with IMAP? I tried setting up my .mac with my Treo and it didn't work. So I now have a yahoo for the Push with iPhone but would like to keep my regular .mac one as well.
 

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IMAP is definitely the easier solution when accessing from multiple devices. This was the idea behind AOL years ago (wasn't called IMAP) so you could login as a Guest at a friend's house and see your mail just the same. Webmail also becomes handy this way when you use IMAP.
 

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Whats the difference between the yahoo "push email" and just logging into your email on the yahoo mail website via the iPhone? (sorry newb)
 

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Whats the difference between the yahoo "push email" and just logging into your email on the yahoo mail website via the iPhone? (sorry newb)
You won't have to log in to get Push email. If you get an email in your Yahoo Push account, it will come directly to your iPhone without you downloading it from the the server.
 

emerrill

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Yeah, it's like a text message, you don't have to check for it, it just comes and notifies you. It cuts down on bandwidth, because then you don't have to have the phone check the server every 5 minutes
 

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I actually prefer POP over IMAP. If you rely on IMAP you have to trust your ISP. You have to trust them to have backups, to keep there servers operational, and not give your email to the Gubermentm, etc...
For one, unless you run your own ISP, you're still at the mercy of their pop3 system for uptime. IMAP clients actually store a copy of the message on your local drive anyway for quicker acccess. Additionally, any server you buy/rent is probably backed up more often than you backup yourself—or in general has far superior hardware that gets replaced more often.

2nd: If your drive dies, you just lost all your e-mail with pop3—unless you have a backup. The e-mail server essentially acts as a backup automatically. No matter how shitty your ISP is, at least one of you has a copy at any given time.

Here is a bigger question, will iPhone email allow you to setup multiple email accounts? Can I access my Gmail, Yahoo, and ISP email all from iPhone at the same time?
I would assume it does. Otherwise, you could just have Gmail aggregate all your mailboxes in one spot. Too bad Yahoo doesn't do that... with their free IMAP e-mail, it'd be perfect for the iPhone.