Launch date for SECOND iPhone?

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How long should we expect to wait for iPhone v2? Could we see a release date in Summer 2008? Apple patents for the touch-screen to be on the back size of a possibly smaller device are floating around.

I would love to see what the second generation iPhone looks like and when it is to be expected, but that just isn't going to happen...
 

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If it is that successful Christmas. But then again if its that successful they could save all their good stuff for later.
 
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If it is that successful Christmas. But then again if its that successful they could save all their good stuff for later.
Yes, I agree. I think we will see a slightly revised version (maybe v.1.1) around the holiday season of '07. However, a whole new design... My guess would be like late 2008- mid 2009. They won't really start developing the specifics until after they oversee the original launch and plan out the next gen. There will be one, though.
 

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I suspect there would be a version with greater storage for Christmas but no other significant hardware changes.
 
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I suspect there would be a version with greater storage for Christmas but no other significant hardware changes.
Yep, that sounds reasonable. There might be a 3G version soon too. I called a Cingular store in the area, and they noted that I shouldn't get the first version because there would be a 3G version soon. YOou never know though, it;s all speculation at this point.
 

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The problem is if you keep waiting for the next version that's around the corner, you will never get one!
That's my thinking. If you wait (whatever it is), you'll probably never do it. That works really really well like when you're upset. :laugh2: But for the good stuff, don't wait!
 

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I don't think we'll be seeing a second iPhone for a while now. Remember there is only one button so its all software driven. If they want to update it there will be a software download. They may come out with a new OS for it but as far as hardware goes I don't believe we'll see anything except bigger flash drives, a webcam on the front or a FM antenna so you can transmit your music to your stero.
 

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Having had a lot of experience with Apple products, I'm certainly NOT going to buy the first version. If for no other reason than it does not have 3G. This is a huge mistake, a truly bad decision on Apples part. If this was a device designed to be a phone first and entertainment device second, then more people would be willing to put up with the ultra slow EDGE connectivity.

But this device IS designed to be an entertainment device with the Video and Internet experience the focus. Thus slow loading web pages are not going to cut it. Surfing at a snails pace will not keep the Apple faithful happy.

That, along with the other typical problems that the first generation of nearly every Apple product has, if you want to save yourself money, a lot of headaches, and down time, it would be wise to wait.

I also believe that ver 2.0 is already close to being ready. Apple will put that on the shelf, sell the first version to the public, and then depending on how many problems they have with ver 1.0, that will determine how fast they push ver 2.0 out the door.

Ver 2.0 will be the one to have. I'm expecting that model will indeed have 3G as the first one should have. It will also have a much better OS as they work the bugs out that show up, as the public serves as Apples personal beta testers.

I have no interest in spending my money to beta test their product. However I will more than happy to pay for a working model that does what it's supposed to do. One that is reliable and can be counted on.

Cheers
 
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Having had a lot of experience with Apple products, I'm certainly NOT going to buy the first version. If for no other reason than it does not have 3G. This is a huge mistake, a truly bad decision on Apples part. If this was a device designed to be a phone first and entertainment device second, then more people would be willing to put up with the ultra slow EDGE connectivity.

But this device IS designed to be an entertainment device with the Video and Internet experience the focus. Thus slow loading web pages are not going to cut it. Surfing at a snails pace will not keep the Apple faithful happy.

That, along with the other typical problems that the first generation of nearly every Apple product has, if you want to save yourself money, a lot of headaches, and down time, it would be wise to wait.

I also believe that ver 2.0 is already close to being ready. Apple will put that on the shelf, sell the first version to the public, and then depending on how many problems they have with ver 1.0, that will determine how fast they push ver 2.0 out the door.

Ver 2.0 will be the one to have. I'm expecting that model will indeed have 3G as the first one should have. It will also have a much better OS as they work the bugs out that show up, as the public serves as Apples personal beta testers.

I have no interest in spending my money to beta test their product. However I will more than happy to pay for a working model that does what it's supposed to do. One that is reliable and can be counted on.

Cheers
I can certainly understand your thinking under the circumstances. It is smart, yet I think that the majority of us on this site will dive in head first and grab the first generation of the iPhone. Whether it is smart or not will not matter for most of us.

Also, Apple is not typically a company to let down the consumers. There will be bugs, as with all new tech and gadgets, but Steve Jobs and Apple will likely do a good job of fixing them quickly and nicely.


Just a thought.
 

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I can certainly understand your thinking under the circumstances. It is smart, yet I think that the majority of us on this site will dive in head first and grab the first generation of the iPhone. Whether it is smart or not will not matter for most of us.
Believe me, it will take a lot of self control for me NOT to buy the first version.

However my experiences over the last 18 months have been very discouraging as service and support has been seriously slipping. And this is not sour grapes on my part as I'm a big Apple advocate.

Here are excerpts of others experiences that mirror my bad experiences (more than one).

"As in our previous surveys, Apple support experiences were all over the map."

"Others had few problems, but had such bad experience with Apple Store "Genius Bar" support technicians that they're sour on Apple."

""My MacBook was initially a total disappointing mess and I hated it, running incredibly hot (upwards of 96 celsius registered on CoreDuoTemp), had the CPU whine, the infamous fan "moo", the brown case staining, a defective MagSafe adapter that got immensely hot and made weird noises and wouldn't charge the battery efficiently, basically a slew of problems. "

See Source Link:
http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/macbooks2.html

If I had not been stung so severely and had Apple stepped up and replaced my "very defective 1st generation MacBook Pro" then I would be more inclined to dive in and get the first gen iPhone.

So I've decided to take a wait and see approach. Once others get their iPhones and start reporting on the forums, the truth will be revealed. I'm hoping the reports will be good.

Cheers
 

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I have no interest in spending my money to beta test their product. However I will more than happy to pay for a working model that does what it's supposed to do. One that is reliable and can be counted on.
Wow! That's pretty harsh for a product that we haven't even used yet, assuming it won't work, not do what it's supposed to do, and won't be reliable. I don't disagree that there will be "issues" but I don't think they will be close to this dramatic. However, if it turns out to be all the things you say it will be then I'll be back to this thread to acknowledge it. But Apple will also lose the farm if it is that bad.
 

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Wow! That's pretty harsh for a product that we haven't even used yet, assuming it won't work, not do what it's supposed to do, and won't be reliable. I don't disagree that there will be "issues" but I don't think they will be close to this dramatic. However, if it turns out to be all the things you say it will be then I'll be back to this thread to acknowledge it. But Apple will also lose the farm if it is that bad.
Actually, my comment was not harsh and I was not suggesting that it would not work. Only that there was potential for a fair amount of issues.

Just a statement of fact based on 10 years of experience as a loyal and continuing Apple customer. As an early adopter I frequently buy the first generation product and as with other mfgs, it's not always a smart move and I take responsibility for that.

Moreover it is a direct reflection of my personal experience with Apple. And it's important to note that I'm a big Apple Advocate. I really like their products and have owned more than 8 new PowerBooks, two MacBook Pro's, three iPods, and a slew of mac accessories.

An example is when I purchased the new MacBook Pro when it was first released. Mine had many big issues, overheating and warping the case, random shutdowns, circuit board problems etc. It was in for service and repair at Apple 7 times over a period of 8 months. Each time it came back with either the same problem or something worse.

As a businesssman with good negotiating skills and a pleasant low key approach, I could not get them to do the right thing and either repair mine or replace it. I wrote letters that were low key statements of facts, asking for help. I was very reasonable and never difficult or impatient. Yet not a single person I came into contact with would do the right thing and take care of me as a customer. The computer became completely useless and unusable.

So I ended up losing thousands of dollars both on the price of the computer as well as my time and effort in communicating, shipping the computer back and forth to them etc.

I learned once again, that buying a first generation Apple product exposes one to a huge risk, in time, money and frustration.

Nonetheless, just last week I bought another new MacBook Pro. This particular computer is excellent in every way. Just the way the first one should have been. Notice I did not say perfect, as I don't expect perfection and I'm very reasonable. I simply believe that I should get what I paid for in a usable product. This new MBP which I've put a tremendous amount of time on already, is everything that I love about Macs.

So I'm not sour on Apple, even though I have every right to be. If I was not an enthusiast and supporter I would not be on this forum. So please don't get me wrong. I love Apple and it's products. I'm also a very positive person. I am hoping that the iPhone is a big success and the first versions only have minor bugs which are to be expected with a brand new device.

Cheers
 
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Actually, my comment was not harsh and I was not suggesting that it would not work. Only that there was potential for a fair amount of issues.

Just a statement of fact based on 10 years of experience as a loyal and continuing Apple customer. As an early adopter I frequently buy the first generation product and as with other mfgs, it's not always a smart move and I take responsibility for that.

Moreover it is a direct reflection of my personal experience with Apple. And it's important to note that I'm a big Apple Advocate. I really like their products and have owned more than 8 new PowerBooks, two MacBook Pro's, three iPods, and a slew of mac accessories.

An example is when I purchased the new MacBook Pro when it was first released. Mine had many big issues, overheating and warping the case, random shutdowns, circuit board problems etc. It was in for service and repair at Apple 7 times over a period of 8 months. Each time it came back with either the same problem or something worse.

As a businesssman with good negotiating skills and a pleasant low key approach, I could not get them to do the right thing and either repair mine or replace it. I wrote letters that were low key statements of facts, asking for help. I was very reasonable and never difficult or impatient. Yet not a single person I came into contact with would do the right thing and take care of me as a customer. The computer became completely useless and unusable.

So I ended up losing thousands of dollars both on the price of the computer as well as my time and effort in communicating, shipping the computer back and forth to them etc.

I learned once again, that buying a first generation Apple product exposes one to a huge risk, in time, money and frustration.

Nonetheless, just last week I bought another new MacBook Pro. This particular computer is excellent in every way. Just the way the first one should have been. Notice I did not say perfect, as I don't expect perfection and I'm very reasonable. I simply believe that I should get what I paid for in a usable product. This new MBP which I've put a tremendous amount of time on already, is everything that I love about Macs.

So I'm not sour on Apple, even though I have every right to be. If I was not an enthusiast and supporter I would not be on this forum. So please don't get me wrong. I love Apple and it's products. I'm also a very positive person. I am hoping that the iPhone is a big success and the first versions only have minor bugs which are to be expected with a brand new device.

Cheers
Again, I understand and respect your thinking. However, there is certainly a margin for error in all new technology. There will be a problem or two with every single version of the iPhone, it's just a question of when you're ready to jump in and take that chance.
 

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I have a first gen black Macbook, hot off the shelf. It's awesome. It sounds like you are more concerned with Apple's handling of your lemon rather than 1st gen products in general. If Apple had done the right thing then this probably wouldn't be an issue. And since not everyone is having those problems it was isolated, not a general problem with all 1st gen MBPs. I'm a huge Mac guy and have been for a long time. I know there are 1st gen issues, but I'm willing to tolerate them, but a lot of folks, like yourself, are not.