News: App Store Folies: Adding Insult To Removal

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The fallout from Apple’s decision to remove all Google Voice apps continues today, with independent developer Riverturn trying explain the unexplainable that is Apple’s removal of these apps. AT&T was once again conveniently pinned as the fall guy, as they were for the SlingPlayer Mobile fiasco. Ultimately, this is Apple’s storefront and they are responsible for what’s available or not available on the virtual shelves. Not only are consumers deprived of truly useful apps, but it also impacts companies such as Riverturn, who invest heavily into the development of apps. This is not a lower level management decision, but you would think it was given the non-response from Apple, when rightly contacted by the developer of VoiceCentral. Repeated emails going unanswered by Apple, but at least they left a voicemail. The developers at Riverturn were finally able to discuss the removal with Richard from Apple and the conversation went something like this:

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Apple is making their self look so petty with all the App Store approval foolishness. Then Apple wonders why so many people Jailbreak. What is the difference if you use GV on a stock or Jailbroken phone? Answer, there is no difference. Who knows maybe Steve is trying to run off all third party developement so he can sit in the sandbox alone and be happy once again. Not cool Steve, not cool at all. Mark:D

As A Footnote: Talk to either company (Apple or AT&Greed) about the short battery life on the 3GS and you get an answer out of the same play book. Apple blames AT&Greed. AT&Greed blames Apple. We are going to see much more of the finger pointing back and forth with neither company taking responsibility as more and more companies join forces.
 

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I don't agree with AT&T's reluctance to want apps that "might compete" with their service, which is complete crap when it comes to Google Voice. I do understand that as a businesss partner of Apple, they will use their influence to remove apps they don't completely understand or sound scary.

Apple of course can tell them to fly a kite or remove them at their behest. Also understandable, given their partnership is a lucrative one for both parties.

Here's where I get rubbed the wrong way... the removal of Google Voice (and related apps) was all over the blogosphere yesterday. Yet, Richard (Apple rep) acts as if he's contacting some yahoo who developed a porn app dialer or something to that effect, acting completely oblivious to the prior days events. I've never used VoiceCentral, but from the appearance of their site, these guys appear to be full time devs. They've worked hard to deliver an app that I'm guessing a fair share of folks find useful and it's simply stripped off the shelf under the guise of "It duplicates iPhone functionality". :mad:

At least step up and take the blame. Hey, this doesn't jive with AT&T, so we've had to pull it.
 

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A Big Thumbs Down To Apple!

I don't agree with AT&T's reluctance to want apps that "might compete" with their service, which is complete crap when it comes to Google Voice. I do understand that as a businesss partner of Apple, they will use their influence to remove apps they don't completely understand or sound scary.

Apple of course can tell them to fly a kite or remove them at their behest. Also understandable, given their partnership is a lucrative one for both parties.

Here's where I get rubbed the wrong way... the removal of Google Voice (and related apps) was all over the blogosphere yesterday. Yet, Richard (Apple rep) acts as if he's contacting some yahoo who developed a porn app dialer or something to that effect, acting completely oblivious to the prior days events. I've never used VoiceCentral, but from the appearance of their site, these guys appear to be full time devs. They've worked hard to deliver an app that I'm guessing a fair share of folks find useful and it's simply stripped off the shelf under the guise of "It duplicates iPhone functionality". :mad:

At least step up and take the blame. Hey, this doesn't jive with AT&T, so we've had to pull it.
I agree with your points. Think how the developers felt being dismissed in such a fashion after their money and time was invested. It could all blow up in Apple's face. You might see more and more credible devs moving their apps to Cydia or some other repository just to avoid the BS from Apple. Heck it might get to the point where darn near every iPhone in the world is Jailbroken. People are getting tired of so many restrictions on a device we all pay so much to own.

Apple is so full of it. They issue a press release highlighting the dangers of Jailbreaking. Yet Apple is the main reason why people are Jailbreaking. Seems like hypocrisy on the part of Apple to me. Apple didn't have this super sized ego when they were darn near bankrupt (pre iPod). Shame on them! Mark

Steve Jobs needs to come down off of his Platinum throne and rejoin the real world. Most likely these type of things would have never happened if Steve Wozniak were still at Apple. Hmmm I wonder why he's gone.
 

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I don't think this affects their businesss. When Apple removes Facebook from the App Store for "duplicating features of the iPhone", then typical iPhone users will be up in arms. I think the noise surrounding the Google Voice apps removal is nothing more than a pindrop in the iPhone ecosystem.

Let us remember, that Apple's control of the App Store is unlike any other distribution platform. The only thing close would Google's Android Market, but I haven't seen any drama coming from that camp.

Palm, while having an App Catalog, will allow sideloading of apps.
 
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First I buy a Palm Pre (albeit temporarily) and now I have to agree with Swagger. I fear for my sanity.

Anyway, I seriously doubt that Cydia would have that big an impact on App Store sales. I love the fact that I can jailbreak my iPhone and enhance its utility through apps not available on the official App Store. I've even paid for a few Cydia apps that wouldn't be approved for the App Store anyway.

So leave me alone, Apple, and let me decide what apps and how I install them on my iPhone, please.
 

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Yes but the last turn downs have been based it seems on personal issues between the dev and Apple. Apple seems not to judge on worthiness of the App but more on do they like the developer which is totally wrong. The developer if he chooses to make more Apps will most likely never be approved for anything again. He did not adhere to Apple's sit down and shut up policy. He spoke up.

I do agree that for now the app store is safe but who knows in the future. No one likes a bully and plus look how far Jailbreaking has come. Mark

BTW: I wish Apple would pull the FB app. Maybe then someone would develope one that doesn't crash. LoL
 

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In first reading of the original story I too wondered why GV was singled out. There are other apps that may duplicate features such as instant messengers. I wonder if this is only the beginning of restricting apps that allow communication ouside of phone calls and ATT messenging service. There are devs in cydia that have apps in the App store as well. I can't believe Apple is unaware of their activities. Uneven admininstration of Apple's codes concerning what is included will only hurt the dev community and ultimately the enduser. That conversation won't assure any devs of a reasonable resolution of conflicts. Bad move and publicity.