Poll iPad or Kindle Fire as gift for 11-yr old

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  1. Target

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    Okay...seriously looking for solid advice here. Not looking for which is better, or the obvious differences. I'd like opinions from people who own both or have had hands on experiences with both.

    We have an 11-year old who loves to read. She owns a 64-Gig iPod touch loaded with apps. Her favorite game and the like. We wanted to get her reader. She asked for an iPad or a Kindle Fire. We can't get our heads around the $500 cost for an 11-year old. The kindle fire's price is good, and the availability of affordable books is appealing. She'll use it for surfing (under controlled supervision of coarse) and some games. Love that you can check out books from the Liabrary on the kindle. However, I hate the thought of buying apps that she already has. (Facebook, that bird game etc.) I really love the "Find my iPad" app.

    Who has both along with real-life advice?

    Thanks in advance.


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  2. iP5

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    First, I have neither those particular devices but have both platforms; iPhone 4, iPod4, DHD, Nook Color.

    We are talking kindle fire right.

    Personally see two sides to this.

    She'll love the iPad more and it would be more of a ohoo ahaa cool thing when with her friends vs the kindle.

    If not for the existing investment from the iPod, I'd completely lean to the kindle. Also I really doubt given the number of cheaper to free apps there are in Android, that she'll ever spend another $300+ in apps to bring the kindle games inventory to where she'd want it. That's the difference in price right?

    At the same time she already knows iOS and there'll never be that, but it's not an iPad thought.

    The last thing I'd say is that for reading in bed or just in your hand, 7" 169 ppi is far far better than 9.7" 132ppi. Every time I see the kids with an iPad, it's on the table, lap, desk, floor. They're looking down at it and their posture is off.

    With my Nook Color, the kids hold it upright, like a book. Especially with it's case, it looks/feels like a small hard cover. The negative to this though is they run around with the thing more like a book, so I'm dreading it's drop, more. Then again it's not the same as dropping a $500+ item.

    eBooks wise, they cost the same right?

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  3. Europa

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    If you have the money, I recommend the iPad. She has an iPod Touch so she probably won't be completely satisfied with a low-end tablet. The two aren't even really in the same class. If you don't have the money for an iPad, I recommend a regular Kindle for books.

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/09/parents_complain_amazons_kindle_fire_gives_kids_access_to_porn_accounts.html

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/06/kindle_fire_usability_study_shows_disappointing_user_experience.html

    On a side note, I heard that the iPad is the number one recommended Christmas gift for her age group. :)
     
  4. Iloveiphones

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    My 1st grader I am writing too for Santa wants an iPad. I'd get her whatever you feel she is responsible for. With the kindle being less responsible and iPad being more.
     
  5. diverdown

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    We are in the same boat. My daughter is 11 and has asked for an iPad for Christmas. She has an older Kindle and an iPod Touch. A few of her friends have the iPad and they use it for more than reading and games. Since we have a few iDevices in the house, we decided on the iPad. With iCloud and restrictions it is easy to keep all the devices in sync and also monitor what is on them. Besides, my son will inherit both her iPod Touch and her Kindle and we won't have to re-purchase the same apps for another device.

    On another note, either one makes a great "takeaway" when necessary.

    Good luck,
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  6. iP5

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    Just tested and Safari can easily access porn media from my iPod. Also have noticed in the past that there are sites specifically designed for iOS. No clue how easy they are to access but in any case suggesting one platform is more vulnerable, well.

    As for the ereader recommendation over the kindle fire. A $60 separation, technology that's going out and a complete absence from the OP regarding this direction. Add that with an iPad in play budget is likely solid at $200.

    Let me just close with, someone once called me out for an agenda. I'm not saying you got your own but from the outside can you see how there seems to be more bias over help here. I mean looking to Apple insider for useful advice on anything Android. Wow.

    And really I don't want to hijack this thread but making the connection to porn. I'm really not sure that name calling is worse.

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  7. Europa

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    iP5, you have to install and app and then enable restrictions for it to work.
     
  8. iP5

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    Oh, which app is that? My boys are still quite young but I'll definitely install to have a better base on the two platforms.

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  9. diverdown

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    You can enable restriction in settings under general. It's allows you to setup restrictions such as clean music and set age defaults for Apps, Movies and TV shows. Also, you can disable apps (i.e. safari) and they will be removed from the ipod/ipad/iPhone. I believe you can also turn off location and in app purchases.

    I use these on my daughter's ipod touch and it works great. I did remove safari from the device as I want her to be in the living room and on our home PC (which is monitored) when she accesses the internet. I have found that youtube lets a lot of explicit content through and have zapped that app as well.

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    Here a couple of pics I just took of the restrictions from my iPhone 4s.
     

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  11. iP5

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    Thanks, the lockout option is nice, effective though a bit drastic. Can say though that my first test with the explicit filter failed to block the porn site so that doesn't seem very effective. Not a criticism, filters aren't usually effective unless updated regularly.

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  12. Hillbilly

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    iPad 2; Kindle Fire will be disappointing.
     
  13. Hillbilly

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    Got iPads for 9- and 11-year olds. We looked at the Kindle Fire and Nook Color along with Android tablets but both already have iPods and are already Apple geeks! She showed the Fire to the 11-year old. She thought it was just a Kindle with some color thrown in.
     
  14. diverdown

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    One other question: Does the Kindle have access to the actual Android Market or just the Amazon site?

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  15. Hillbilly

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    I believe you have to root the Fire to access the Android market but there are instructions on the web to use.
     
  16. Ltzguy

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    Wow. Do any of you own a kindle fire? If you don't, how can you rate it? How can you say it's a disappointment? You really don't know do you? Well I do. I bought 2 of them. I've played around with one of them so I can give a truthful and realistic opinion. I'd like to point out the fact that I'm quite anti-android before I begin.

    This is a really nice tablet. It's fast. I really like the size. There is nothing I can say bad about it. Is the iPad worth 2.5 times more money? In my opinion.... Absolutely not. I like it do much, I told my wife I wanted one for Christmas. The two I bought are for my 12yr old and my 7yr old.

    My vote, kindle fire. You won't be disappointed.

    Btw, the apps available appear to be in the Android market.

    No, I'm still not buying an Android phone.
     
  17. imutter

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    We have both and son actually got the fire as one of his 11th Birthday presents
    he has also an iPhone4 and Alienware laptop
    And he loves it
    yes you get some Apps again (he has his own account hooked on Amazon now)
    but they have free Apps everyday
    I use the ipad mostly and have to say I could do so much more but have no time to do so.
    Apple Appstore is no comparison to Amazons.
    Fire is more portable and more durable of course cheaper
    If your kid is creative (music editing, graphics, writing, photography etc) then no way the Fire will do
    but for internet, Youtube, Facebook, Reading, listening music, watching movies the Fire is awesome.
     
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    I forgot all iTunes music is easy imported in to the cloudplayer and then to the Fire streaming works like a charm
     
  19. Target

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    Oh wow! Thank you all for the great insight. I'll have to re-read them all to assimilate this information. We are on the fence still. But this has helped us get a clear picture of what we're in for.

    If there are more comments, keep them coming. I'll post our purchase.


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  20. imutter

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    Take some time go to Best Buy and play around with each! What ever you decide on is going to be right. The good parents do what you do Research !
     

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