Poll: Will you still buy if a data plan is required?

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Will you still buy if a data plan is required?

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 72.5%
  • No

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 6 15.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .

ColsTiger

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Mar 8, 2007
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#2
Poll: Will you still buy if a data plan is required?
Yep. While $40 is the same price I pay for my broadband at home, I can at least take this EDGE connection everywhere I can pick up Cingular/At&t's network. I guess the only time you'll lose it is when you're roaming on T-Mobile's network or don't have any network signal bars whatsoever.
 

comcipher

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Jun 8, 2007
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Yep. While $40 is the same price I pay for my broadband at home, I can at least take this EDGE connection everywhere I can pick up Cingular/At&t's network. I guess the only time you'll lose it is when you're roaming on T-Mobile's network or don't have any network signal bars whatsoever.
For me it depends on the cost of the data plan. $40 a month for an EDGE connection is ridiculous. If they actually price this plan that high for speeds below 200 kbps (you'll probably see between 12 KB/s and 20 KB/s )I don't know if I could justify this purchase.

I want to drink the kool-aid as much as everyone else, but paying over $20 a month for the trickle of data would be crazy.
 

adamjohn_98

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Mar 12, 2007
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For me it depends on the cost of the data plan. $40 a month for an EDGE connection is ridiculous. If they actually price this plan that high for speeds below 200 kbps (you'll probably see between 12 KB/s and 20 KB/s )I don't know if I could justify this purchase.

I want to drink the kool-aid as much as everyone else, but paying over $20 a month for the trickle of data would be crazy.
Exactly, I cannot justify $40 extra per month.
 

Youngbinks

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Jun 4, 2007
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#7
I think I have come too far now to turn around. I have paid $40 a month for data before so I am ready to do it again, but if it too ridiculous, like say $80 the odds of me still getting it are very slim.
 

adamjohn_98

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Mar 12, 2007
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#8
I think I have come too far now to turn around. I have paid $40 a month for data before so I am ready to do it again, but if it too ridiculous, like say $80 the odds of me still getting it are very slim.
True, it would be hard to turn back now. I am just hoping that if it is required, then maybe there will be multiple levels like $20 or $25 at the low end and then $40 for the high end.
 
Jun 3, 2007
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#9
for me, im barely scraping together the cash for this thing. i live in a town where there is free wi-fi EVERYWHERE, so there is NO SENSE for me to be paying an extra 40 a month for 2 YEARS when im not even using the data im paying for. im kinda hoping for the "pay-as-you-go" data plan if a data plan of some sort IS IN FACT required. (like for the visual voicemail or something)
 

comcipher

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Jun 8, 2007
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#10
I think what part of their problem is (or was if they've made up their mind) is that you would be offending the rest of your customers who are paying more for data if you price your plan less.

For example, if they put it at a reasonable $20 unlimited plan (like smartphone connect) you open it up to more customers and forward the plan of the phone revoloution. However, you also piss off your PDA (loosley defined as having a QWERTY keyboard rather then a number pad on a smartphone) plan customers by asking less for the same data.

So where do you put it?
Hopefully at the very affordable level of $20 a month, certainly nothing over $30, and $30 is still really expensive for a shitty EDGE connection.
 

adamjohn_98

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Mar 12, 2007
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#11
I think what part of their problem is (or was if they've made up their mind) is that you would be offending the rest of your customers who are paying more for data if you price your plan less.

For example, if they put it at a reasonable $20 unlimited plan (like smartphone connect) you open it up to more customers and forward the plan of the phone revoloution. However, you also piss off your PDA (loosley defined as having a QWERTY keyboard rather then a number pad on a smartphone) plan customers by asking less for the same data.

So where do you put it?
Hopefully at the very affordable level of $20 a month, certainly nothing over $30, and $30 is still really expensive for a shitty EDGE connection.
Ahh very good point comcipher!
 

ColsTiger

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Mar 8, 2007
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#12
I think what part of their problem is (or was if they've made up their mind) is that you would be offending the rest of your customers who are paying more for data if you price your plan less.

For example, if they put it at a reasonable $20 unlimited plan (like smartphone connect) you open it up to more customers and forward the plan of the phone revoloution. However, you also piss off your PDA (loosley defined as having a QWERTY keyboard rather then a number pad on a smartphone) plan customers by asking less for the same data.

So where do you put it?
Hopefully at the very affordable level of $20 a month, certainly nothing over $30, and $30 is still really expensive for a shitty EDGE connection.
Yep, but according to a Cingular/At&t source the price is going to be $39.99 for a required data plan. Now we know how At&t is going to get their increased revenue from this partnership.
 

comcipher

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Jun 8, 2007
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Yep, but according to a Cingular/At&t source the price is going to be $39.99 for a required data plan. Now we know how At&t is going to get their increased revenue from this partnership.
They will make money either way. When you have this many people signing up for voice line contracts alone you're making a ton of scratch. Especially with a 5 year exclusive deal with Cingular.

That "source" is just like most sources right now. Until I hear something from Jobs on Monday at WWDC or see an actaul printed price from Cingular I wouldn't trust it. If they really want this to truly be a phone "revolution" and see people using their phones in a completly new and data-centric way, they had better not make the plan an exclusive $40 / month.

The PDA data plan they have now is geared more towards businesss people who need a public IP, want to VPN into a network and check their e-mail via Exchange. The iPhone is positioning itself as a new phone for the masses and is more media centric then work centric. It wants mass market appeal and a $40 a month unlimited plan for a trickle of 12 KB/s of data is freaking insane.
 

ColsTiger

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#14
They will make money either way. When you have this many people signing up for voice line contracts alone you're making a ton of scratch. Especially with a 5 year exclusive deal with Cingular.

That "source" is just like most sources right now. Until I hear something from Jobs on Monday at WWDC or see an actaul printed price from Cingular I wouldn't trust it. If they really want this to truly be a phone "revolution" and see people using their phones in a completly new and data-centric way, they had better not make the plan an exclusive $40 / month.

The PDA data plan they have now is geared more towards businesss people who need a public IP, want to VPN into a network and check their e-mail via Exchange. The iPhone is positioning itself as a new phone for the masses and is more media centric then work centric. It wants mass market appeal and a $40 a month unlimited plan for a trickle of 12 KB/s of data is freaking insane.
yeah, I don't trust a lot of sources either, but this guy actually posted pics of the iPhone training manual yesterday. he's the real deal.

As far as the revenue, At&t is wanting to gain incremental revenue on the data side instead of the voice side. They'll not only pick up voice plans from all their new switchover customers that can't resist the iPhone, but they'll also increase the plans of the current customers by 80% - 100% in some cases.
 

mav

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May 9, 2007
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#15
It doesn't surprise me that a premium phone, like this, will require a premium data plan. Actually I expected a required $40 data plan. In a way, it's good because it keeps the iPhone out of reach from the kiddies.
 

ColsTiger

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Mar 8, 2007
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#16
It doesn't surprise me that a premium phone, like this, will require a premium data plan. Actually I expected a required $40 data plan. In a way, it's good because it keeps the iPhone out of reach from the kiddies.
My thoughts exactly. If it turns out that there is a required $40/month data plan, that will turn off some people and leave more for us!:laugh2:
 

brianhyp

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Jun 6, 2007
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#18
im buying the phone no matter what i just hope at and t uses vaseline for the data plan if you know what i mean