Thinking about using a supplement.

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Hello there,

How are you all doing? Hope everything is going good. About four weeks ago I quit smoking cold turkey, and thank God haven't looked back since. I also subscribed to Gold's Gym a week later in order to try and get fit and in shape.

Of course I am still suffering from the effects of smoking, meaning I can't do cardio and exercise for long because I start to breathe heavy, but it's getting noticeably better every day, although I still cannot perform as well as I'd like to.

I always start my exercise with running 2 or sometimes a bit more kilometers in around 20 - 24 minutes. Then cycle for around 10 minutes, and then exercise with weights.

Anyway, my coach at the gym takes this supplement called "Dymatize Liquid Super Amino" which gives you proteins in order to build up your muscles. I don't really eat much meat or anything with protein in it, that's why I need something to assist me and build me up quicker. The only meat I eat is steak or kebob, and the only chicken I eat is grilled chicken ordered from outside, not cooked in the house, which means I don't eat a lot of it. My coach has been using it for a while now and he looks great and feels better than ever. He can also perform almost twice as good as he used to on a regular diet.


The Amino Liquid is of interest to me because of two reasons: 1) my coach has been using it for a while and he looks GREAT now, not bulky, but in shape. 2) it has 0 carbs and 0 sugars, which I believe it means that it won't mess up with my sugar levels.

The ingredients:

32 Oz. Berry
Serving Size4Tablespoons52mL
Servings Per Container18
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 92
Total Fat 0g
Saturated Fat 0mg
Cholesterol 2mg
Sodium 55mg
Total Carbohydrate 0g 0%
Sugars 0g
Protein 23g
Vitamin A 0mg 0%
Vitamin C 0mg 0%
Calcium 0mg 0%
Iron 0mg 0%
Amino Acid Profile Per Serving
L-Alanine 2156mg
Arginine 1288mg
L-Aspartate 1560mg
L-Cysteine 20mg
Glutamic Acid 2550mg
Glycine 5719mg
L-Histidine 282mg
Isoleucine 370mg
Leucine 760mg
Lysine 1005mg
Methionine 400mg
Phenylalanine 490mg
Proline 3280mg
Serine 905mg
Threonine 510mg
Tryptophan 10mg
Tyrosine 390mg
Valine 535mg
† Tryptophan are not added to this product. They are naturally occurring in the proprietary protein blend.
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value not established

I am Diabetic (type 1) and I am interested in it because, as you can see, 0 sugars, 0 carbohydrates, and 0 fat. The only thing that seems a bit high would be the sodium, but I don't really know whether it actually is harmful or not.

Any information is appreciated, guys. I know that using supplements is not really advised by most people, but I want to perform better in the gym and also build up quicker. The problem is really with my diet, because I don't eat sufficient and enough proteins that would help me with that. There are also a couple of other supplements I noticed, most importantly 100% Whey Gold Standard and MyoFusion Advanced Muscle-Building Protein, but I believe they both contain an amount of sugars and carbs.

Thank you very much.

p.s: in case any one wants to know, I'm 172cm and 76kgs. The body composition test showed that my body fat percentage is a tad higher than my muscle mass percentage, which is why I'm looking to both drop weight and gain muscle in order to get in shape.
 

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Hmmm..when I saw the title I immediately thought erectile disfunction. Bummer.
 

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when I was going to the gym regularly I went to GNC and they were very knowledgeable about what vitamins and stuff I should be taking. If you have a nutrition store around you that sells that kind of stuff the staff should be trained and able to help you. Worth a shot.
 

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Doesn't GNC sell vitamins and supplements? Seems like they'd have a vested interest.
Yupp they do, but the guy didn't really try to talk me into anything extra. I was honestly surprised. He explained what each thing was for and when I asked about a couple products and how they compared actually told me they were the same and to go with the cheaper version.
 
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when I was going to the gym regularly I went to GNC and they were very knowledgeable about what vitamins and stuff I should be taking. If you have a nutrition store around you that sells that kind of stuff the staff should be trained and able to help you. Worth a shot.
Well, there's a new supplements store that I noticed a couple of days ago near my house. It's brand new. I'll check it out and see if they can help me. However, I have done even more research than the time I posted this thread, and I think I am going for the Amino.
 

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question: you admit that you don't eat very well... so why not address that issue before popping pills?
 

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I strongly recommend discussing this with your physician before starting any of these supplements, especially since diabetes needs to be factored in. Gaining muscle mass is difficult. Much more difficult than losing fat. You're going to have to eat large amounts of the right types of food and follow a strict exercise plan, so you'll have to be extra diligent with monitoring your glucose levels.
Yupp they do, but the guy didn't really try to talk me into anything extra. I was honestly surprised. He explained what each thing was for and when I asked about a couple products and how they compared actually told me they were the same and to go with the cheaper version.
You probably won't need any of them as long as you are eating right. And if you do have a deficiency, they would need to see your lab work before telling you which ones to take. You're better off asking your physician if you need any supplements than asking a vitamin salesman to blindly tell you which to take. Some of them can do more harm than good.
question: you admit that you don't eat very well... so why not address that issue before popping pills?
100% agree.
 
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question: you admit that you don't eat very well... so why not address that issue before popping pills?
It's not that I don't want to eat well, it's just that I cannot. I don't like to eat meat or chicken. I don't know if I've mentioned this, but I can only eat Grilled Chicken ordered from a restaurant or kebob also ordered from a restaurant, however, home cooked ones, not a chance. I tried eating them, but I hate them, and I am not going to force myself to. I eat some other foods that contain proteins, like beans and lentil soup, but not every day; that is why I need a supplement that will compliment my body intake of protein, carbs, calories, etc.

I am going to ask my physician about it.

By the way, it's not pills, it's a protein shake.

Thanks for your input, acosmic and Mindi.
 

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Well, for what it's worth, there are other options to get protein: Fish, Nuts, Eggs, seeds, legumes, tofu, dairy...
 

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I'm in the same boat, but mine is lack of time. Growing up my mom didn't work, so we had fish twice a week, legumes everyday, vegetables everyday and all home grown. chicken once every couple weeks, lots of carbs and fruit ( Italians love their pasta and bread ) not to mention the beauty of siesta, everyone is eating as a family by 1pm, that was mendatory. now all I eat is whatever I found to be the quickest, mom is in Italy, girlfriend cooks whenever she has half hour between full time student and work.
so I take my vitamin shakes like my life depends on it. I suggest talking to your physician either way before taking anything, but tarek teach your self to like it if that's the only problem, my father would slam my face into the pasta with vegetables if I didn't eat it, and now I love it ( whenever we make it ).
he knew what he was doing lol
 

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I strongly recommend discussing this with your physician before starting any of these supplements, especially since diabetes needs to be factored in. Gaining muscle mass is difficult. Much more difficult than losing fat. You're going to have to eat large amounts of the right types of food and follow a strict exercise plan, so you'll have to be extra diligent with monitoring your glucose levels.

You probably won't need any of them as long as you are eating right. And if you do have a deficiency, they would need to see your lab work before telling you which ones to take. You're better off asking your physician if you need any supplements than asking a vitamin salesman to blindly tell you which to take. Some of them can do more harm than good.

100% agree.
Tarek,

Mindi is right on target when she recommends talking to your physician. Please do that and follow his or her advice.

Jerry
 
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Well, I cannot do much about my eating disorder as I have to stick to what my family eats everyday, which almost always consists of either meat or chicken. We eat fish, once a week. I eat eggs either in the morning or at night, but it gives me a bad stomach ache for some reason. I don't drink milk, but I like yoghurt so I am guessing dairy isn't a problem. I think I am allergic to nuts, because every time I eat it, my face gets filled with red things that look like pimples but really hurt. I know there's a lot of other things, but not all of it is available every day. I need a substantial amount of protein per day if I am going to be exercising, and food isn't going to do me good since I'm nit-picky. I don't care for it to be the Liquid Super Amino or any other product as long as it will give me the proteins I need. I talked to my physician, who understands my case since she's been my doctor since I was 5, and she told me that I can take it one time post-workout, but only one time and around 1 and a half table spoons mixed with either milk or water, which I am going to use water.

Thank you for your interest and concern, guys. I really do have an eating disorder, that's why almost everyone I know can perform better than me in any sport or exercise, and it's because I am extremely nit-picky in what I eat, has been so since I was a kid and unfortunately parents didn't help much, and now the slightest thing I hate to eat can make me vomit. I don't expect you to understand that since you probably don't have the same problem, but I do. And thank you for the information, I really appreciate it.