Waaahhhh!

ahaxton

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My guess is the people complaining about the drop in price don't own AAPL, so I doubt it played a role in the decline of the stock.

P.S. Both NASDAQ and the DJI were down today, as were Sun, Intel, Cisco, MicroSoft, RIM and SanDisk. Did they discount their products too today?
Did they announce new products and a revamped line?

You better believe it there are plenty of shareholders who don't like this price drop one bit.

And what percentage of threads on the forums and news sites are actually about the new iPod products? A tiny fraction compared to the backlash of the price drop
 

The Toddfather

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And what percentage of threads on the forums and news sites are actually about the new iPod products? A tiny fraction compared to the backlash of the price drop
Because there are a bunch of people who don't understand the basic premise of retail sales - if the product doesn't move fast enough you must discount it. Your assertion that shareholders are unhappy is silly, Apple will sell more phones, gain market share and put more dollars to the bottom line.
 

ahaxton

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Because there are a bunch of people who don't understand the basic premise of retail sales - if the product doesn't move fast enough you must discount it. Your assertion that shareholders are unhappy is silly, Apple will sell more phones, gain market share and put more dollars to the bottom line.
Well I'll do whatever I can as an individual to make Apple hurt and encourage everyone else to as well.
 

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My guess is the people complaining about the drop in price don't own AAPL, so I doubt it played a role in the decline of the stock.

P.S. Both NASDAQ and the DJI were down today, as were Sun, Intel, Cisco, MicroSoft, RIM and SanDisk. Did they discount their products too today?
I like you, Toddfather. I've always liked the Voice of Reason, especially when illogical comments are overwhelming my senses. Where do you want to meet for lunch? I'm footing the bill.
 

geordisjd

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Well I'll do whatever I can as an individual to make Apple hurt and encourage everyone else to as well.
Why should I boycott a company that has increased my investments by more than 800% in 6 years? Why don't you go after Microsoft instead? How many people have died from stroking out after suffering from another software bug attack? How many more have been seriously sickened by lack of memory after upgrading to Vista, even losing their peripherals?
And then, there is the Zune disaster. So ugly that it won first place in the worst dressed category. A catastrophic adventure in bad taste.
 

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I don’t think I am whining, I bet most of you who are calling those of us complaining about the price drop don’t even own an iPhone so it does not matter to you.

However as a certified Apple Mac tech and server systems administrator for both Mac and Wintel platforms, this is something directly out of Microsoft’s book of tricks.

There is a difference from a price drop. A poster wrote comparing a GMC truck price drop, how ridiculous of a comparison is that? Thats not a price drop that’s a sale price.
Here is the correct comparison. Simple enough analogy.

That same GMC truck costs $45,000. You buy one and two months later GMC drops the price to 27,000. That would really piss you off would it not?
I bet it would, the price drop should have been $50.00 - $75.00 maybe $100.00.

I can care less about those that call me a whiner, I own it, going to keep most likely, however I just purchased a brand new 15” MacBook Pro. Less than 6 days, I am already making plans to take it back and get my 2,000 back. I really see the items (High ticket items) jumping off the shelves at the Apple store (not) (sarcasm) so I guess Apple don’t care about my 2,000 because maybe, just maybe some other guy will come right up and plunk down 2,000 for a new laptop.
 

ahaxton

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Why should I boycott a company that has increased my investments by more than 800% in 6 years? Why don't you go after Microsoft instead? How many people have died from stroking out after suffering from another software bug attack? How many more have been seriously sickened by lack of memory after upgrading to Vista, even losing their peripherals?
And then, there is the Zune disaster. So ugly that it won first place in the worst dressed category. A catastrophic adventure in bad taste.
Microsoft is right around the same status as Apple with me starting today if reparations aren't made.
 

The Toddfather

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I don’t think I am whining, I bet most of you who are calling those of us complaining about the price drop don’t even own an iPhone so it does not matter to you.
Wrong. I waited in line day one, made my purchase at 6:20 p.m. and love the iPhone. While there are a few issues I would like to see resolved, it is a great product that will now be available to more people because of the price drop.

Thank you for a fine product Mr. Jobs, worth every dime I paid.
 

geordisjd

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I don’t think I am whining, I bet most of you who are calling those of us complaining about the price drop don’t even own an iPhone so it does not matter to you.

However as a certified Apple Mac tech and server systems administrator for both Mac and Wintel platforms, this is something directly out of Microsoft’s book of tricks.

There is a difference from a price drop. A poster wrote comparing a GMC truck price drop, how ridiculous of a comparison is that? Thats not a price drop that’s a sale price.
Here is the correct comparison. Simple enough analogy.

That same GMC truck costs $45,000. You buy one and two months later GMC drops the price to 27,000. That would really piss you off would it not?
I bet it would, the price drop should have been $50.00 - $75.00 maybe $100.00.

I can care less about those that call me a whiner, I own it, going to keep most likely, however I just purchased a brand new 15” MacBook Pro. Less than 6 days, I am already making plans to take it back and get my 2,000 back. I really see the items (High ticket items) jumping off the shelves at the Apple store (not) (sarcasm) so I guess Apple don’t care about my 2,000 because maybe, just maybe some other guy will come right up and plunk down 2,000 for a new laptop.
Unlike DNA, technology evolves extremely rapidly. We thought we'd be on Mars by now, driving flying cars on this planet. Instead computers, internet, communications, nanotechnology took off and were not even predicted.
I bought a generation 4 iPod for $399. 2 weeks later, without warning, the video iPod was out. I was mildly pissed off for a day, then I bought 2 video iPods and put the generation 4 in my car where it still entertains me on the way to work.
Just evolve with it!
Until some idiot drops a few large nukes on the planet, or some 7 mile-long asteroid plunges in the Pacific Ocean, or some super-Ebola virus overwhelms the human race (OK, make that a Vancomycin-resistant staph), this is the way it's going to be.

I'm not mad at Apple. I may not completely understand their strategies to get what they want, but I know 2 things: they want to broaden their market and make money (surprise, anybody?). They also think outside the box and strive to be different, They give us quality products the other guys haven't thought about. They delight those of us who are sensitive to esthetically pleasing stuff, even at a cost.

And did I mention I loved my iPhone? It's been the best instant-gratification device I've ever had. I'm not going to ***** about $200. I'm happy. I'll buy the next one.
 

The Toddfather

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I like you, Toddfather. I've always liked the Voice of Reason, especially when illogical comments are overwhelming my senses. Where do you want to meet for lunch? I'm footing the bill.
Drop me a line when you're in Denver my friend, my treat!
 

geordisjd

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Drop me a line when you're in Denver my friend, my treat!
I live in Denver. The clear air must be doing more than unclogging sinuses. I bet the crisp and pure, yet rarified oxygen, stimulates cortical function in those precious neurones of mature brains!*

* Based on an almost double-blinded, somewhat placebo-controlled trial of mine
 

The Toddfather

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I live in Denver. The clear air must be doing more than unclogging sinuses. I bet the crisp and pure, yet rarified oxygen, stimulates cortical function in those precious neurones of mature brains!*

* Based on an almost double-blinded, somewhat placebo-controlled trial of mine
Must be the air my friend.

First time I can recall where people were upset a company lowered it's price. If $200 has a substantial effect on your life, you probably shouldn't have bought the iPhone.
 

iPaul

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Personally, I'm not going to evicerate myself at the thought of losing $200, although the principle of the announcement coupled with with no new functionality for exisitng users except advertising icons forced on our phones is a defininatly not looking after existing users.

Bottom line, however is businesss is businesss. Apple is not my buddy, it's a huge company with billions of dollars in revenue - so if the end result is free stuff or a rebate for the consumer... hey, all this whining and negative press is great! I could care less about signal to noise on an internet messageboard or hurting Steve's feelings.
 

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Quit your whining.

Here are a few facts:

No one forced you to buy it at $600

Apple is a publicly traded company that has an obligation to make money for it's shareholders

You received no guarantee that the price would be set at $600

If you didn't like it, you should've taken it back

Grow up.
AMEN BROTHER! I *LOVE* my $600.00 iPhone!

Rumpelgeist
 

rumpelgeist

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BS-this is just bad businesss and not good for their reputation with loyal customers. Read it for yourself all over this forum. We have a right to complain. We were royally screwed by Apple. I for one worked hard for my money. Yah no one told me to go out and buy one but i did trusting Apple's reputation. I now have a phone that they are no longer making and could have had double the space for $100 less than I paid for the 4g just a few weeks ago. So don't tell me quit whining. I feel voilated and cheated and rightfully so!
I gotta tell ya, Connie, I am a VERY loyal Apple customer. I own two iPhones, three iPods and an iMac.

This doesn't change my opinion of them one little bit. They are the best. I love their products and will continue to buy them, price drops, price raises, whatever.

So, in my case at least, your assertion that this will affect their reputation with loyal customers is just not true, since I am a loyal customer, and it hasn't affected my opinion of Apple in the slightest.

Rumpelgeist
 

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ah, finally a thread made up of sane people. seriously, the whiners about this 200$ thing are getting real old. someone needs to lock the threads. if 200$ affects you enough to create this much chaos in your life, something is wrong with your priorities (or you shouldn't be spending 600$ on a phone in the first place).

no matter what the technology or product is, early adopters always pay more. that's life. same for stuff like HD dvd/blueray. People are buying that stuff up, do you think the price won't drop considerably? Think they will be pissed that their 500$ dvd player is now on sale at walmart for 200$?
 

rumpelgeist

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Because there are a bunch of people who don't understand the basic premise of retail sales - if the product doesn't move fast enough you must discount it. Your assertion that shareholders are unhappy is silly, Apple will sell more phones, gain market share and put more dollars to the bottom line.
Here, here.

Well said, my good man.

Rumpelgeist
 

Hecubus

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I've had mac products since the original iMac, which I bought on day one (loved it.)
I used to own an iBook (loved it.)
I've had several iPods, including nano's and shuffles (loved all of them.)
I bought a MBP last year (currently loving it long time.)
I bought my iPhone in July for $600, and aside from minor complaints, it's the best cell phone I've ever owned.

But this weekend I'm going to the Apple store to give them a piece of my...






...paycheck. To further demonstrate my support for Apple products, I'm going to buy a Macbook and a new Nano for my fiance' as a wedding present (we get married in October.)

Seriously, are people now embarrassed by their iPhones? Last week and since June 29th everyone has been prancing around like the **** of the walk, talking about how everyone wanted to touch their precious iPhone, and how everyone else was so jealous (or pissed off) that you had one and they didn't. It's just a piece of technology designed to serve you.

I sort of understand being angry (thought I'm not), but as others have stated, it does not mean the iPhone is any less cool or functional now than when you paid $600.

If you want to fight to get some cash back, more power to you--for all the angst and stress and disappointment it will cause. So go for it, and write questionable to deceitful posts on this forum about how you kicked ass and yelled at the manager or Apple support and caused a scene and got your money back, if it will make you feel better. I will certainly enjoy reading and chuckling over them.
 

The Toddfather

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I've had mac products since the original iMac, which I bought on day one (loved it.)
I used to own an iBook (loved it.)
I've had several iPods, including nano's and shuffles (loved all of them.)
I bought a MBP last year (currently loving it long time.)
I bought my iPhone in July for $600, and aside from minor complaints, it's the best cell phone I've ever owned.

But this weekend I'm going to the Apple store to give them a piece of my...






...paycheck. To further demonstrate my support for Apple products, I'm going to buy a Macbook and a new Nano for my fiance' as a wedding present (we get married in October.)

Seriously, are people now embarrassed by their iPhones? Last week and since June 29th everyone has been prancing around like the **** of the walk, talking about how everyone wanted to touch their precious iPhone, and how everyone else was so jealous (or pissed off) that you had one and they didn't. It's just a piece of technology designed to serve you.

I sort of understand being angry (thought I'm not), but as others have stated, it does not mean the iPhone is any less cool or functional now than when you paid $600.

If you want to fight to get some cash back, more power to you--for all the angst and stress and disappointment it will cause. So go for it, and write questionable to deceitful posts on this forum about how you kicked ass and yelled at the manager or Apple support and caused a scene and got your money back, if it will make you feel better. I will certainly enjoy reading and chuckling over them.
Well done, Hecubus!

Mr. Jobs has proved once again why we spend our hard earned dollars on his superior products and customer service with his peace offering to all the complainers.
 

connie

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These forums are here for everyone to able to discuss whatever opinion they might have. We are in America and have the right to an opinion thats why it's so great. If we all had your opinion it would be boring. Lots of people here are upset but that doesn't mean they should close these threads. You can go on being a loyal Apple customer, I am not telling you that you shouldn't, I am just speaking how I feel. No need not to be nice because I gave my input. I am just saying I will now always be very leary of buying anything from Apple at release, but that doesn't mean you have to be.:(