Why Does AT&T Do This?

Pimpboy51

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Ok this hasn't happened to me, and If it does I'll take it to court. BUT I've read that some people who didn't purchase an iPhone directly from ATNT OR Apple but put in their sim to an unlocked iPhone get some text message from AT&T forcing them to upgrade to the iPhone data plan. Is this true? Why would they force you to do that? they didn't pay for the phone! They shouldn't worry about it either! I would cause a monster fit with AT&T if this were to happen to me. But it just drives me insane that they do that to people.
 
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Hey man, i feel u. But u gotta feel that CEO and his yacht in the Bahamaw needs maintenance, plus how is he gonna get there? Poor guy needs a private jet, and what is he gonna drink on the plane? That good 2000$ wine needs to be bought, also he needs couple maids and a escort girl to take care or him, hes sons birthday is about to come too! Ferraris arent cheap and the kid is gonna Shlt if he doesn't get it... Lol. It sux but id do the same and so would u!
 

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post up some links to this ACTUALLY happening and then we'll talk, but i'm gonna have to wave the BS flag on this one until i see otherwise.
 

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Forcing them to upgrade? I doubt it. I'm sure they advice you to get the iPhone data plan otherwise you run the risk of incurring huge data fees but I'm sure they aren't forcing anyone.
 

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Sorry Pimpboy, but you're too dramatic.

I've received the text. It's exactly what Youngbinks said it is. I use my iPhone on my BlackBerry data plan. Every once in a while I'll get that, but they don't force you. Calm down, Mr. Lawsuit. :rolleyes:
 

Quake97

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There's a big thread on howardforum's Apple forum about this. Go check it out and "take a chill pill."

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I took my sim out of my Blackberry and used it in my 3G iPhone for a full day. The next day, I got a SMS from AT&T telling me that I was using a sim in a 3G iPhone that was not intended for usage in a 3G iPhone. The message also stated that I had to call AT&T to change the my plan to a 3G plan to avoid further charges.

I haven't used the sim in the phone since but the SMS messages from AR&T about this are true. I don't know if people have had their data plans changed by AT&T though.
 

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They won't change your data plan without your permission. I use my sim in my N95, Bold, unlocked Storm and iPhone 3g. They send the message as a warning to people on lower plans that they could incur data charges, such as people that may be using a Razr SIM in it who are just on the regular medianet plan. I am on a BB plan and have had no problems at all. As long as you are using a plan that is on the same tier as the iPhone data plan such as a PDA or BlackBerry plan then you are fine. Otherwise, yes you would need to upgrade as would be the case with any other phone. It doesn't matter if you bought the phone from Apple or AT&T or not, if it is a smartphone running on their network and you use data you are required to have a PDA/iPhone/BB Data plan.
 

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I am sure that they aren't Forcing their customers so much as informing them that they are using a large amount of data from the device that I am sure that AT&T has polled as being an iPhone, and they are trying to protect that customer from having an unexpected $1000 data bill.
I'm not rushing to AT&T's side, but at the same time, I am sure that they are trying to:
a) make sure that the policy of having a data plan with an iPhone is enforced.
b) PREVENT losing customers due to huge data bills which customers would find to be inappropriate, outrageous, unfair.... because they weren't "aware" that having email pulled every 15 minutes, checking maps, SMS and surfing the web would use so much data.
Look at it however you'd like, but the fact remains, that if you buy an iPhone second hand, and you are not setup for the correct plan, it's going to sting you in the ass. AT&T may look like they are bullying their customers, but they are actually helping most of them.
 

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Well I don't need anyone to raise the BS flag because I dent know this! That's the point of this forum is to help each other out not just call people stupid for not knowing.... But thanks for the help to everyone else
 

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Well I don't need anyone to raise the BS flag because I dent know this! That's the point of this forum is to help each other out not just call people stupid for not knowing.... But thanks for the help to everyone else
Who called you stupid? If you didn't know, that's okay. I hope you didn't think that my post was derogatory towards you in anyway, because it wasn't.
 

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yeah what hawk said. we were both just stating the facts, not trying to insult anyone at all.
 

Pimpboy51

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Well I meant to get all mad at the person who called this a BS post. Just because I accidentally mis-interpreted something doesn't automatically make this BS
 

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Here's the exact, word for word, text from AT&T. I received it today:

AT&T Free Msg: Your data plan is not eligible for iPhone 3G and does not support Visual Voicemail. Please call 611 to add a Data Plan for iPhone

It says PLEASE call, not you HAVE to call.

Here's a screen shot.

 

PepeRB29

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Well I meant to get all mad at the person who called this a BS post. Just because I accidentally mis-interpreted something doesn't automatically make this BS
that would be me :) aren't you glad someone on the internet could make you mad?

as the others have stated, as long as you have a comparable plan for a smartphone nothing will happen. just like i stated before, if you could post up some links of someone who AT&T FORCED to upgrade to their iPhone data plan then i will gladly lock it up.
 

Pimpboy51

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Oh!
well thanks for providing proof to your post!
i didn't know if they forced or just kept bugging you about it
 

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The reason you'd get messages stating the $30.00 data plan is required, if you have an iPhone without the data plan, is because the system has something set up that is automated, it detects what phone you're using, and does a sweep to make sure you're using the $30.00 data plan. It doesn't check to see where you got the iPhone from, just that you are using the required data plan.
 

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Sorry Guys, Its in the iPhone Terms and Conditions Contract as I'm reading it in writing right here. AT&T states that if they see that you are using an iPhone without an eligible data plan, AT&T reserves the right to apply that data plan at their own will.

Hey its in the contract, they are the Exclusive carrier for the iPhone in the U.S. If you are usuing it on their Network, they can. If not, then don't complain. If you wanna try to sue the company, be prepared to have lots of $$$ ready.

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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/packages/packages-details.jsp?q_package=sku3190234

Please note: AT&T is Apple's exclusive carrier partner for iPhone in the United States. An eligible data plan for iPhone is required. This data plan covers data usage in the United States and does not cover international data usage and charges. If AT&T determines that you are using an iPhone on your account without an eligible data plan, AT&T reserves the right to add an eligible data plan to your account and bill you the appropriate monthly fee.