Adobe Flash Player support on iPhone, iPad?

MuddyPaws

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Tell Apple to fix it then. If it indeed is broke. Or like has been said a million times, if you don't use it then the battery won't drain. Being able to use it is worth a little battery loss to many people.

Doesn't your battery drain when you talk on the phone? Maybe they should take that feature out of the iPhone.

Using an electronic device that runs on batteries will drain the battery. The more you do with it, the faster the battery will drain. It's kind of how it works.
 

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Tell Apple to fix it then. If it indeed is broke. Or like has been said a million times, if you don't use it then the battery won't drain. Being able to use it is worth a little battery loss to many people.

Doesn't your battery drain when you talk on the phone? Maybe they should take that feature out of the iPhone.

Using an electronic device that runs on batteries will drain the battery. The more you do with it, the faster the battery will drain. It's kind of how it works.
Oh. The solution to the mystery of electronics has been solved. Using your battery does indeed use your battery. Genius.
 

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Can you name an app that actually uses another app or are all iOS apps self enclosed?

Guess this question is for any app developers out there.

And by apps I mean anything OTHER than the core apps from Apple, you know, the ones that can't be deleted, NOT those.

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MuddyPaws

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Flash apps are basically legacy code at this point. You don't see a lot of Java Applets any more because they aren't needed. Flash is the same in that sense. You can do almost everything with just HTML 5 and JavaScript, which the iPhone supports very well.
That's very true but re-coding all the web pages or sites that are highly flash dependent, including user names, passwords and data to function the same on HTML5 could be very expensive and time consuming. Some of that information may not even translate over. HTML5 isn't just a thing, it's a group of technologies that can work together. It's not simply as easy as popping a flash site into a conversion program and poof you have a 5 site.

I'm not talking about playing a video. Contrary to what Apple and many sheep say about flash, it isn't just for video and advertising. There are tons of sites that were completely build around this technology. There are also a great many educational sites that many schools use with their students.

There are still millions and millions of devices and computers that can easily run flash. Companies know this. Sure there is a push for 5 in many circles but that same push was on for flash and java back in the day. Heck, I can remember CSS first hit the web. Actually I can remember when the web first hit the web. I can remember when the term "BETA" was not used for new, untested software. LOL

But we are not seeing mass companies abandon their well developed and well established (many are money making also) flash sites for 5. At least not yet. It may come, but they aren't doing it yet.
 

psylichon

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Ok. I won't use it anymore.​

Can I say fanboy?​

Or no?
You could try making your argument without any insinuative phrasing at all, since that's what turns a well-thought-out debate into straight-up trolling. Try "Apple users" as an alternative to those you mentioned and then maybe people will focus on what you're actually debating instead of taking offense.
 

MuddyPaws

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You could try making your argument without any insinuative phrasing at all, since that's what turns a well-thought-out debate into straight-up trolling. Try "Apple users" as an alternative to those you mentioned and then maybe people will focus on what you're actually debating instead of taking offense.
But it's not "Apple users". I am an Apple user. Apple users don't blindly (wool over eyes) accept what Apple offers as the gospel and the only thing we will ever need. So Apple users in this context would be insulting to people that think for themselves and might even know a little about what they want or need.
 

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But it's not "Apple users". I am an Apple user. Apple users don't blindly (wool over eyes) accept what Apple offers as the gospel and the only thing we will ever need. So Apple users in this context would be insulting to people that think for themselves and might even know a little about what they want or need.
See, the problem is your assumption that anyone that agrees with Apple on this issue is blind to "the truth". We're dealing with opinions here, not absolutes. The people you're trying to pigeonhole aren't necessarily sheep... they simply don't agree with you. As astonishing as that may be, you're going to run into this a lot in your life. I suggest you simply try to learn a different perspective from those that disagree with you instead of trying to belittle them into thinking the way you do. It will save you (and the people around you) a lot of frustration and needless bickering.
 
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i haven't got one yet for the S2 but i will get one for thoes days when work is slow and i wanna watch movies. for 8hours plus my part time gig. were talking phone comes off charger @6am and goes back on charger 1-1;30am. that only leaves approx 4-5 hours to charge. no phone can handle that many hours on a single charge.
My iPhone lasts me about 6 hours of heavy use before i need to plug into the charger. If your Samsung phone is lasting you 4-5 hours then you need to look into other phone options to prolong the usage of your phone because Android just isn't working out for you...
 

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Please discontinue the use of the word "sheep" in that context. It's insulting and doesn't further your points any. Thanks.
Yes thankyou! Im also sick and tired of hearing the word sheep like seriously? got anything better than sheep? pretty lame diss Android users have for us iPhone users. for one thing how does an animal have any reference to a smartphone is beyond me! their insults are super dry. if we're sheeps then they must be cows..fat phones, huge, ginormous screens smh
 

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That's very true but re-coding all the web pages or sites that are highly flash dependent, including user names, passwords and data to function the same on HTML5 could be very expensive and time consuming. Some of that information may not even translate over. HTML5 isn't just a thing, it's a group of technologies that can work together. It's not simply as easy as popping a flash site into a conversion program and poof you have a 5 site.

I'm not talking about playing a video. Contrary to what Apple and many sheep say about flash, it isn't just for video and advertising. There are tons of sites that were completely build around this technology. There are also a great many educational sites that many schools use with their students.

There are still millions and millions of devices and computers that can easily run flash. Companies know this. Sure there is a push for 5 in many circles but that same push was on for flash and java back in the day. Heck, I can remember CSS first hit the web. Actually I can remember when the web first hit the web. I can remember when the term "BETA" was not used for new, untested software. LOL

But we are not seeing mass companies abandon their well developed and well established (many are money making also) flash sites for 5. At least not yet. It may come, but they aren't doing it yet.
I understand what HTML5 is and that you can't just pop a flash site into a conversion program...yet (see SmokeScreen). Actually, JavaScript and ActionScript share a similar heritage (see ECMAScript) so it's not that crazy of a transition. Using HTML5 canvas just means you don't need a 3rd party plugin.

Yes many sites use Flash, but many sites use framesets too. And guess what, framesets have been deprecated in HTML5 because we have better ways of doing the same thing now. Flash will be "deprecated" in time as well. Apple is expediting the process.
 

MuddyPaws

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I suggest you simply try to learn a different perspective from those that disagree with you instead of trying to belittle them into thinking the way you do. It will save you (and the people around you) a lot of frustration and needless bickering.
Isn't that what the hard line anti-flash, pro-html-5 people do when someone has the nerve to say they would like flash on their phone?

yes, I think it is. Anytime someone DARES say they would like flash, the bashers come out of the woodwork saying how stupid it is and how you don't need it, and it's pointless and it's old or slow or crappy or battery draining or it's being retired or whatever.

Maybe YOU don't want or need it, but that doesn't make the needs or desires of people that DO want it any less important.

It's possible. My Galaxy S2 ran flash just fine. My son even logged into his Webkinz account with it.