BBM Vs. iMessage

[Napoleon PhoneApart]

Yet, whenever Apple does something, the media stops and listens.

And when a carrier wants to carry the iPhone, there's none of this silly carrier add-on crap that goes on with other phone models. They want the iPhone so badly that they'll bend to Apple's will.

 

[Arcangel2176]

so your gonna go that route huh. if we use your logic then were will the iPhone be in the next 5yrs.
"Android has been consistently snatching up more and more of the smartphone market with every passing month. This trend has been going on for quite some time now. There's typically some revolutionary Apple moment looming in the future that iPhone fanboys insist will turn the tides. So far, none of those -- including first the launch of the iPhone 4 and then the launch of the Verizon iPhone -- have had any significant impact on the current trend."
"Android has over 40% of the global smartphone market in terms of devices sold/shipped, and activated, Apple only has about 15%"

That's nit even the same argument. The reason Android is taking that Mather share is because Android has a million phones in all price points on all carriers even prepaid. Apple has one phone on only two carriers. Like Napoleon said Apples iPhone still gets whatever it wants no bloat no mess whatever Apple says while the others even Android have crap all in them.

 

[Tinman]

so your gonna go that route huh. if we use your logic then were will the iPhone be in the next 5yrs.
"Android has been consistently snatching up more and more of the smartphone market with every passing month. This trend has been going on for quite some time now. There's typically some revolutionary Apple moment looming in the future that iPhone fanboys insist will turn the tides. So far, none of those -- including first the launch of the iPhone 4 and then the launch of the Verizon iPhone -- have had any significant impact on the current trend."
"Android has over 40% of the global smartphone market in terms of devices sold/shipped, and activated, Apple only has about 15%"

He said RIM wouldn't be around due to attrition. And in fact RIM IS losing marketshare and selling less. Apple sales, however, are going up. In fact you need look no further than the front page of this Website to see that.

BB is indeed on its way out and falling even faster than I expected. So who cares about BBM when there are less and less people even able to use it.

 

[Arcangel2176]

He said RIM wouldn't be around due to attrition. And in fact RIM IS losing marketshare and selling less. Apple sales, however, are going up. In fact if you need look no further than the front page of this Website to see that.

BB is indeed on its way out and falling even faster than I expected. So who cares about BBM when there are less and less people even able to use it.

Exactly! Thank you maybe I wasn't clear but you summed it up nicely

 

[Europa]

so your gonna go that route huh. if we use your logic then were will the iPhone be in the next 5yrs.
"Android has been consistently snatching up more and more of the smartphone market with every passing month. This trend has been going on for quite some time now. There's typically some revolutionary Apple moment looming in the future that iPhone fanboys insist will turn the tides. So far, none of those -- including first the launch of the iPhone 4 and then the launch of the Verizon iPhone -- have had any significant impact on the current trend."
"Android has over 40% of the global smartphone market in terms of devices sold/shipped, and activated, Apple only has about 15%"

The market share is higher only because there are many, many Android phones on the market. There are only two iPhones currently being sold. And those two iPhones happen to occupy the one and number two spots on the list of most popular smartphones in the US. They also pull in a lot more revenue than Android phones.

 

[Arcangel2176]

It just doesn't make sense. The rim situation is nothing like Apple not even close

 

[Bennyboy]

The market share is higher only because there are many, many Android phones on the market. There are only two iPhones currently being sold. And those two iPhones happen to occupy the one and number two spots on the list of most popular smartphones in the US. They also pull in a lot more revenue than Android phones.

I feel like you have to repeat that every couple days. Why can't people get that?

 

[Arcangel2176]

I feel like you have to repeat that every couple days. Why can people get that?

People don't get it because they choose not to. Its quite sad actually. I mean as a Mac iOS supporters its the same principal with PC's versus Mac , Toyota versus Ferrari all the same principal. Toyota is number 1 because it males a billion cars a year not because they are better than Ferrari.

 

[Santa]

But can we get back to the topic? Maybe agree that neither is any good because they're both focused on a single platform?

 

[Arcangel2176]

But can we get back to the topic? Maybe agree that neither is any good because they're both focused on a single platform?

Well yes in that respect but imessage automatically changes the message to SMS/mms if the recipient doesn't have iOS so that's a plus for iMessage

 

[Vcoronel127]

But can we get back to the topic? Maybe agree that neither is any good because they're both focused on a single platform?

Actually I beg to differ. I believe that BB did good because of BBM years ago and I think Apple is trying to duplicate that to attract more users of the iPhone with a messaging service. Although having it just for all iOS devices would be a mistake in the long run. Sure it may do well for a couple of years but pretty soon making it cross platform for Androids and such devices would be necessary.

Like for instance, why can't Apple integrate iMessage into iChat or just make it just one?!?! They both offer the same service for consumers so why not just do this? Surely this would just be even more reason to get an iOS device.

As far as BBM I honestly think that it has more features than iMessage. Although BBM has been around for years, I can't help but think what is Apple's plan for iMessage. I just hope they plan on improving it and someday make it cross platform -_-




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[Tinman]

Actually I beg to differ. I believe that BB did good because of BBM years ago...

I don't agree with that at all. BB took off because of its integration with enterprise email. Now it no longer has that as an advantage. That and the fact that it has not really innovated in the last few years and their marketshare is crumbling.

Michael

 

[Vcoronel127]

Or at least on the iPod Touch/iPhones, add a little display icon next to the chat bubble of the person's avatar, if set.

This would also be nice or they can just totally eliminate the bubbles and apply something new to it..it just seems like the bubbles is just too high schoolishh


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[Vcoronel127]

I don't agree with that at all. BB took off because of its integration with enterprise email. Now it no longer has that as an advantage. That and the fact that it has not really innovated in the last few years and their marketshare is crumbling.

Michael

Yes that too..I guess I was just speaking for the device messaging stand point and not the overall phone capabilities.


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[rom x]

The market share is higher only because there are many, many Android phones on the market. There are only two iPhones currently being sold. And those two iPhones happen to occupy the one and number two spots on the list of most popular smartphones in the US. They also pull in a lot more revenue than Android phones.

does it really matter how many devices. more market is more maket share. period point blank.

 

[Napoleon PhoneApart]

does it really matter how many devices. more market is more maket share. period point blank.

And how proud you must be. How's that old Android revenue stream goin'?

 

[Arcangel2176]

does it really matter how many devices. more market is more maket share. period point blank.

wait didn't Windows mobile have that same mentality and look where they are, more irrelevant than RIM

 

[Europa]

does it really matter how many devices. more market is more maket share. period point blank.

Yes, it does matter. The iPhone continues to pull in more revenue despite the fact that there are only two iPhones on the market. How can you discount the relevance of revenue? It's profit that gives you money for research, development, product marketing, manufacturing, etc.

 

[rom x]

And how proud you must be. How's that old Android revenue stream goin'?

i really don't get your point. you act like i work for Android. let me be clear on this. i have NO allegiance with any company or mfg. i had an iPhone and soon as something that I see as better (i.e. fits my needs) i move on to it. right now i have the evo4g to me it fits my needs better than an iPhone. will my next phone be an iPhone? who knows everyone has certian needs when picking a phone. but to say that the iPhone is the best is total ignorance.

 

[rom x]

Yes, it does matter. The iPhone continues to pull in more revenue despite the fact that there are only two iPhones on the market. How can you discount the relevance of revenue? It's profit that gives you money for research, development, product marketing, manufacturing, etc.

i though we were talking market share not revenue. but if you wanna change the subject then you will get no argument from me on revenue.