How do you know Europe is getting a different version of the iPhone? (Reliable cite please.)
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Mike
CNN: "The Steve Jobs Master Plan: iPhone hacking"
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Mike
I am a long time macrumors member, but I figured I'd sign up here and post my 2 cents.
Are we, being such hardcore Apple fanatics, completely missing the point OF Apple? The millions spent on ads showcasing the problems macs don't have compared to pc's, the billions spent on making listening to and buying music a 1, 2, 3 step process... Apple's goal is to bring ease of life and usability of incredible processses/features to the majority, those who might not have it all up there to figure out everything with a "machine" (while making it extremely pretty as well).... the people who call up their college kids in the middle of class and say "A big red X just popped up onto my screen, do I click 'close'?" Equally strong markets are those graphic designers, video editors, photographers who need a reliable, artistic machine that "just works." A third market is the college student who, once again, needs something user friendly and "just works."
Here we are, ADVANCED Apple users, the small minority of Apple users who DON'T keep Apple genius's in businesss because we don't bring in our iMac's when someone accidentally put a file under their dock and they don't know how to get it out... and we are talking about how Apple was, no, not smart enough, nor businesss savvy enough, but GEEKY enought to entice this little community of hackers so as to sell phones to all .0000000001% of Apple users who will ever figure out what the hell a "hack" is.
I mean, Jesus, we sound like a bunch of PC users with all this talk...
Are we, being such hardcore Apple fanatics, completely missing the point OF Apple? The millions spent on ads showcasing the problems macs don't have compared to pc's, the billions spent on making listening to and buying music a 1, 2, 3 step process... Apple's goal is to bring ease of life and usability of incredible processses/features to the majority, those who might not have it all up there to figure out everything with a "machine" (while making it extremely pretty as well).... the people who call up their college kids in the middle of class and say "A big red X just popped up onto my screen, do I click 'close'?" Equally strong markets are those graphic designers, video editors, photographers who need a reliable, artistic machine that "just works." A third market is the college student who, once again, needs something user friendly and "just works."
Here we are, ADVANCED Apple users, the small minority of Apple users who DON'T keep Apple genius's in businesss because we don't bring in our iMac's when someone accidentally put a file under their dock and they don't know how to get it out... and we are talking about how Apple was, no, not smart enough, nor businesss savvy enough, but GEEKY enought to entice this little community of hackers so as to sell phones to all .0000000001% of Apple users who will ever figure out what the hell a "hack" is.
I mean, Jesus, we sound like a bunch of PC users with all this talk...
You were making brilliant points until you wound up your post with the line above. It's a shame too, this is just your first post and already it's been sullied by your bias. We're not elitists here, maybe back on Macrumors that's the norm, but we're equal opportunity OS users here, we're talking iPhone not Mac or PC, they have their own forums.
Thanks!
I'm sorry to double post, but this article has really intrigued me on Apple's stance to hacking.
You have to understand, that in their youth, Mr.Jobs and Mr.Wozniak had gone into the "Blue Box" businesss. They were essentially "Phreaking."
Mr. Jobs and Mr. Wozniak were also active members in, The Homebrew Computer Club. You read it correctly, Homebrew.
Without turning this into a wall of text, I think Apple has become the "IBM" stature of company that Mr. Jobs disliked in his younger years. The spin, however, is that because this is Mr. Jobs' company he has the ability to break the mold of the cold-corporation stereotype.
Hacking "IBM" hardware/software was akin to showing the big corporation that they can't overlook the little guy. Apple's current stance is already contrary to what a typical course of action would be. With ATT setting lose the dogs, Apple's hands are clean.
Apple is essentially hosting a virtual playground for hackers, but it comes with a word of caution: Don't take advantage of the playground or you'll wake the giant.
I think for as long as we see applications that bring a legitimate purpose to the iPhone, we'll continue to use the same old jailbreak executable with each firmware upgrade. However, once hacking starts affecting Apple's bottom line by circumventing security measures to protect intellectual properties you can start running for the gates because the playground is now closed.
In other words, once Apple starts selling it's own ring tones via iTunes you can kiss this happy little community goodbye until we get a new jailbreak.
You have to understand, that in their youth, Mr.Jobs and Mr.Wozniak had gone into the "Blue Box" businesss. They were essentially "Phreaking."
Mr. Jobs and Mr. Wozniak were also active members in, The Homebrew Computer Club. You read it correctly, Homebrew.
Without turning this into a wall of text, I think Apple has become the "IBM" stature of company that Mr. Jobs disliked in his younger years. The spin, however, is that because this is Mr. Jobs' company he has the ability to break the mold of the cold-corporation stereotype.
Hacking "IBM" hardware/software was akin to showing the big corporation that they can't overlook the little guy. Apple's current stance is already contrary to what a typical course of action would be. With ATT setting lose the dogs, Apple's hands are clean.
Apple is essentially hosting a virtual playground for hackers, but it comes with a word of caution: Don't take advantage of the playground or you'll wake the giant.
I think for as long as we see applications that bring a legitimate purpose to the iPhone, we'll continue to use the same old jailbreak executable with each firmware upgrade. However, once hacking starts affecting Apple's bottom line by circumventing security measures to protect intellectual properties you can start running for the gates because the playground is now closed.
In other words, once Apple starts selling it's own ring tones via iTunes you can kiss this happy little community goodbye until we get a new jailbreak.
Relax... it was jestful.
I didn't mean it in a "Macs are better" way, but in a more technical aspect... as in "hacking" is a VERY PC-centric term.
If you took it that way and were so offended, perhaps it isn't my bias that should be checked.
My apologies. I thought i had read the iPhone for europe was going to be 3G and that is yet to be confirmed. I would think it will be though. Europe has total 3G coverage and I don't think any euros would buy a non-3g cellphone no matter how cool or pretty.
I left my bias at the door next to my mac and pc, they like to keep each other company.
My Macs are work horses, I know where my bread is buttered so I have never ventured into hacking them unlike my PCs, so I honestly do see your point. I couldn't imagine not hacking my iPhone though
