I Am Very Surprised How Many PC Users Are Buying iPhone ?

[WHM]

That's like asking why so many PC owners have bought into the iPod. What does an iPhone have to do with a Mac? Nothing.

On one hand I understand your post... but being a Mac user and hearing I can sync all my information from my computers is what piqued my interest. For instance if Microsoft announced that with their new Vista they would also have forth coming a phone, I would never even consider looking. We do use Excel and Word to communicate with our customer's software but in house all Apple software. With Microsoft and Apple having cross over working on both PC's and Macs it certainly makes both camps compatible. Rodney King once said " can't we just all get along"

 

[Tinman]

Well this thread went sorta off topic! To answer the question about sync, I've synced photos from iphoto on my laptop and synced music and address book from my imac with no problems. Just make sure you check and uncheck the right things to sync in iTunes for each computer.

"Off topic?" What exactly are you replying to? I didn't see anyone asking about syncing.


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Mike

 

[tharmsen]

I am just curious as to why so many PC users have not converted. Over the last 5 years I have converted at least 15 family or friends to jump from their PS's to Apple. Almost all of them have told me this is so much easier than what I expected.

The truth is, many PC users are in fact converting to Mac. Mac computer sales are at an all time high, and they're selling as many laptops as Dell or HP... THAT'S an accomplishment! It's all attributed to their recent switch to Intel processors.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/05/24/Apples_retail_notebook_sales_up_94_percent_in_april.html

I have been a PC user all of my life. Last year I got my first Mac, an Intel based laptop, and I haven't looked back. This fall I'm buying a new home PC and my Dell is getting retired - it's being replaced by a Mac.

 

[Wangmaster]

"Off topic?" What exactly are you replying to? I didn't see anyone asking about syncing.



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Mike

my bad! i had another forum on and replied to the wrong one...I meant to say my brain went off topic!

 

[tharmsen]

But reality set in after I started looking at them. Would it totally change the way I felt about browsing the Web compared to PCs, the way the iPhone did compared to other mobile devices I'd owned? No, not really. Blow me away with the screen? Nope. Make if easier to work with my Office docs, RDP'ing, email, and other work stuff? Nope again. Would running Windows on any Mac I bought be required (for work, at the very least)? You bet.

Wait until the first time you run Windows in a window as fast as your PC can run it natively... then you'll be sold. OSX is so much easier to work with than Windows (especially Vista which sucks at the moment as it's a complete resource hog).



I need Windows too for a couple of applications we use at work that aren't ported to OSX and probably never will be. Now, here's the beauty of using a Mac - I can run a windows application (let's say Internet Explorer) in a standalone window so it looks as though, and behaves as though, it's actually running in OSX. It's the most incredible thing you've ever seen, something a PC can't do with OSX. This works with any Windows application...

Here's a look:



That's IE 7.0 running in OSX seamlessly using the method I described above. Try that with a PC. Oh, and in case you didn't know - IE 7 has never been released for OSX, it only runs in Windows... until now of course.

 

[tharmsen]

Oh, and this will really screw with you...


Hehe, that's OSX running with a Windows Start Menu at the bottom with IE 6 in the background there.

 

[Tinman]

Wait until the first time you run Windows in a window as fast as your PC can run it natively... then you'll be sold.

I don't see the point in that. If I want to run PC apps it seems to make more sense to run Windows natively on a PC. I've never run across a Mac running Windows via Parallels running as fast as my fastest PCs either.

OSX is so much easier to work with than Windows (especially Vista which sucks at the moment as it's a complete resource hog).

I don't work with an OS, I work with applications. No time savings there, at least for me.

I need Windows too for a couple of applications we use at work that aren't ported to OSX and probably never will be. Now, here's the beauty of using a Mac - using VMware I can run a windows application (let's say Internet Explorer) in a standalone window so it looks as though, and behaves as though, it's actually running in OSX. It's the most incredible thing you've ever seen, something a PC can't do with OSX. This works with any Windows application...

I don't have a need to run OSX under Windows.

But I run VPC and VMware and run several different OS's. I run Vista under XP and XP under Vista. Also utilize Citrix a lot. With published applications I can run any PC app in a window--even on the few Macs that need access to our CRM stuff.

But back to my point... I see nothing as dramatic between a PC and Mac as compared to the iPhone to almost anything.


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Mike

 

[tharmsen]

But back to my point... I see nothing as dramatic between a PC and Mac as compared to the iPhone to almost anything.

You're being abstinent. Just give in, this will go much easier.

 

[WHM]

Now Off Topic

Topic was to get an idea why so many PC user were buying into the iPhone... again not another thread for the battle between PC'c and Macs.

 

[tharmsen]

Topic was to get an idea why so many PC user were buying into the iPhone... again not another thread for the battle between PC'c and Macs.

It hasn't turned into that, relax.

 

[UFGator]

On one hand I understand your post... but being a Mac user and hearing I can sync all my information from my computers is what piqued my interest. For instance if Microsoft announced that with their new Vista they would also have forth coming a phone, I would never even consider looking. We do use Excel and Word to communicate with our customer's software but in house all Apple software. With Microsoft and Apple having cross over working on both PC's and Macs it certainly makes both camps compatible. Rodney King once said " can't we just all get along"

That's all great, but I'm not a Mac user and I can still do all the things with my PC that you have listed above. Don't get me wrong. I would love for Mac and the iPhone to take over the world. It's just the original question on why a PC owner would use an iPhone is confusing to me because one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[tharmsen]

That's all great, but I'm not a Mac user and I can still do all the things with my PC that you have listed above. Don't get me wrong. I would love for Mac and the iPhone to take over the world. It's just the original question on why a PC owner would use an iPhone is confusing to me because one has nothing to do with the other.

Just wait until Leopard comes out and the iPhone and the Mac OS are seamlessly integrated.

Ehh, it's fun to dream.

 

[Sleeper]

The truth is, many PC users are in fact converting to Mac. Mac computer sales are at an all time high, and they're selling as many laptops as Dell or HP... THAT'S an accomplishment! It's all attributed to their recent switch to Intel processors.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/05/24/Apples_retail_notebook_sales_up_94_percent_in_april.html

I have been a PC user all of my life. Last year I got my first Mac, an Intel based laptop, and I haven't looked back. This fall I'm buying a new home PC and my Dell is getting retired - it's being replaced by a Mac.

Yes, we can see that by Apple's mighty 6% share of the market. Seriously, no-one runs an OSX emulator under Windows because no-one wants to. Mind you, you're right about Vista, it's horrible.

The whole PC vs Macs argument is just a waste of time. Considering they run on pretty much the same hardware now it's just a matter of which operating system you prefer.

 

[hexonxonx]

I bought an iPhone simply because I liked what I saw. I already had an iPod Photo that I still use today and knew the iPhone would be great.

A week after my iPhone purchase, I bought a MacBook Pro. The iPhone influenced my decision there though I had been thinking about getting an iMac a few years before. The iPhone just made me want to get a Mac all over again.

Didn't even want to put off buying the Mac till Leopard, why waste time playing when I could have the Mac now!

 

[Regnad]

First Apple product for me other than iPods for my daughter. Switched from Mac to PC in 1991 and can't go back now, not without a 8800GTX with Bioshock and Half-Life coming...

I have no brand loyalty and would have bought the iPhone from anyone who provided the package and experience. This phone is like the Tivo and Squeezebox to me, a wonderful example of tech serving our need.

 

[tharmsen]

Yes, we can see that by Apple's mighty 6% share of the market. Seriously, no-one runs an OSX emulator under Windows because no-one wants to. Mind you, you're right about Vista, it's horrible.

Not true at all. Several companies have tried to create a commercial OSX emulator for Windows and Apple sued them, or threatened to sue them. Some independent projects are out there like PearPC (http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html#features) but they're not very refined.

There is a need to run Windows on a Mac for a good number of people... like me (QA) and software engineers... and others as well.

You're right about the hardware, they are pretty similar and it boils down to the OS. Would you rather run a fast stable OS like Unix or a clunker like Vista? I'm sticking with XP on my PC's and I love OSX... it's amazing once you play with it for a few weeks.

 

[RyanFavre]

all the vista hate...maybe its because my laptop is new and has top of the line processor speed and 2 gig of ram, but its the best OS MS has come out with in my 2-3 months of experience with it.

 

[SmartAlx]

"If it was a Linux base phone? "

In a perfect world........ haha

Like this phone?
http://www.openmoko.com/

This phone is 100% open source. The users have complete access to ALL of the phone. They even sell a model WITH TOOLS to HELP you to take it apart! They WANT the users to take the phone apart!

The developer model was just released. The base model cost's $300 and works on any GSM network. Quad band so it works all around the world. It has GPS, wifi, 3G, complete Bluetooth 2.0 profile including A2DP, microSD, touch screen with TWICE the resolution of the iPhone. The list goes on. Basically it pretty much has every thing you would want your phone to have, except a hard drive.

When it's more developed, it's so going to OWN the iPhone!

The Mass Market phones will be available in the fall, they say.

 

[connie]

PC user here, and my computer or it's brand has absolutely nothing to do with my buying an iPhone. I liked the ipod and thought an ipod and iPhone together would be great, not to mention all the other bonuses I get with it. It didn't matter who would have made this phone or what company came up with it, I still would have bought it.

 

[Alexander]

My main computer is a PC, and I own an iBook that has a broken LCD. Despite this, I'm a proud iPhone owner.