iPhone a Trojan Horse for the Goverment Surveillance?

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An alarming white paper concludes that the Apple iPhone contains a backdoor spyware module that allows hackers or the government to conduct secret surveillance of the user, part of an established trend of corporations and the state working hand in hand to eavesdrop on citizens via widely-used software and hardware products.

Earlier this week, a technology group in Russia released the results of their attempts to reverse engineer the iPhone, concluding that the product has "A built-in function which sends all data from an iPhone to a specified web-server. Contacts from a phonebook, SMS, recent calls, history of Safari browser - all your personal information can be stolen."

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/200707iPhonesurveillance.htm

I don't know if this is in fact true or not, but I hope not. This has to be a direct voilation of At&t's Privacy Policy. Amirite?

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fredthedog said:
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LOL!

Regardless of THAT, would any of this really surprise any of you? When Google Maps can give you a crystal clear satellite image of your neighbors house, what makes you think the governments of the world (and corporations) don't have access to MUCH better technology?

Newsflash: Don't break the law and you have nothing to worry about ;)
 
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Decibel9M3 said:
Oh yeah?

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/2754



Assuming you don't break the law makes this ok? That is completely beside the point.....
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Whether it's okay or not is a bit besides the point... what are you going to do to stop it? Probably nothing, since that what MOST people would do. Can't speak for other countries, but here in America people would rather just sit back on the couch and change the channel than fight for their rights.

LOL - funny in a sad way... but totally true.

Take their SUVs away and MAYBE they'll fight... :p
 
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DRabbit said:
Whether it's okay or not is a bit besides the point... what are you going to do to stop it? Probably nothing, since that what MOST people would do. Can't speak for other countries, but here in America people would rather just sit back on the couch and change the channel than fight for their rights.

LOL - funny in a sad way... but totally true.

Take their SUVs away and MAYBE they'll fight... :p
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This is a serious issue and by calling Americans lazy about fighting back on these issues doesn't make it right for the government to do whatever they wish.I think you need to open your eyes because people I know fight for what they think is wrong and this is wrong!
 
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News Flash

Text Messages
Cell Tower Location
Phone #'s called & received
Time of the above

All of the above are already stored on servers and even if you do not have gps, you can be tracked by cell tower location (large nonspecific area) unless you turn your phone off.
 
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DRabbit said:
LOL!

Regardless of THAT, would any of this really surprise any of you? When Google Maps can give you a crystal clear satellite image of your neighbors house, what makes you think the governments of the world (and corporations) don't have access to MUCH better technology?

Newsflash: Don't break the law and you have nothing to worry about ;)
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thats actually a very true point and its not hard to believe at all
 
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JMSinTX said:
Text Messages
Cell Tower Location
Phone #'s called & received
Time of the above

All of the above are already stored on servers and even if you do not have gps, you can be tracked by cell tower location (large nonspecific area) unless you turn your phone off.
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Yes, this is true, I agreed to this when signing my contract. This is clearly stated in AT&T's Privacy Policy. It's what they choose to do with this information that bothers me and can potentially voilate the privacy policy.
 
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nonu54 said:
This is a serious issue and by calling Americans lazy about fighting back on these issues doesn't make it right for the government to do whatever they wish.I think you need to open your eyes because people I know fight for what they think is wrong and this is wrong!
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Mmmhmm... yeah right. Most people don't do anything except complain a lot about it. But that's a whole different argument.

I don't need to open my eyes... they are already wide open, which is why I wouldn't find it at all hard to believe a story like this. Ask anyone if they think the government does "secret" spying on it's civilians and they'll probably tell you "probably". They'll also probably give you the whole "post 9-11" speech at the same time. As long as they can keep driving their SUVs, they're happy enough to go about their lives.

THAT, my friend, is the unfortunate reality. You're in a forum filled with people who spend $600 on a cellphone. Consumerism wins out in this culture. Think about it.
 
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Almost all cell phones now have a GPS chip in them, even if they don't have GPS functionality. When you call 911 it sends the longitude and latitude of the cell phone to the 911 center. Some phones allow you to turn this off, others don't.

As already noted, if your cell phone is on, it's broadcasting to the world your exact location. If you hit 3 or more cell towers, your phone can be located through simple triangulation... the Fed's do it all the time.

As for my contacts... who cares. It's a first name, last name and phone number... something you can get from any public phone book. I don't store Social Security numbers, passwords or anything of any substance on my cell phone anyway.

Every call you make it recorded and scanned for key words anyway. It's not like you have any privacy in this world anymore... unfortunately.
 
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nonu54 said:
This is a serious issue and by calling Americans lazy about fighting back on these issues doesn't make it right for the government to do whatever they wish.I think you need to open your eyes because people I know fight for what they think is wrong and this is wrong!
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america's government is the most corrupt *cough*bush*cough*.
 
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Is that why I have been seeing those black helicopters and strange looking dudes with dark glasses?
 
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Decibel9M3 said:
Earlier this week, a technology group in Russia released the results of their attempts to reverse engineer the iPhone, concluding that the product has "A built-in function which sends all data from an iPhone to a specified web-server. Contacts from a phonebook, SMS, recent calls, history of Safari browser - all your personal information can be stolen."
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You don't suppose.... a special server connected to iTunes? LOL. Seems to me that they have to have access to your account, etc.. especially if they have thought ahead and considered the ability to download music, videos, etc.. directly from iTunes. I would also look at the activation and verification issue that must be present for some of the AT&T stuff as well.

I'm getting rather tired of everyone crying wolf over every little thing they can't explain. I suspect that after the Sony fiasco there is a very simple explanation, especially when one consders the amazing functionality of this little device.
 
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prisonplanet.com? Yeah, thats where I get all my reliable news from.

Besides they don't mention anything that any other cell phone on the planet already can do. Nothing unique about the iPhone here.

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As I stated in my original post......

Decibel9M3 said:
I don't know if this is in fact true or not, but I hope not.
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But it doesn't surprise me based on the lawsuits against AT&T for doing this exact same thing a year ago. I will post the link again for you.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/2754

Check that story, it is REAL. I will leave it to you to do your own homework on that one.
 
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