ok. First off, sorry if any of this info is old news, but I'm at my AT for the national guard and I'm just sharing what I learned when I called cingular, and I'm on my cell so I don't have time to read each thread. The iPhone will be available 6pm at corporate cingular stores, Apple stores, and online at Apple. The prices are 499 and 599. You don't need to start a new line, but existing lines will be extended two years from the purchase date. Unlimited data plans for iPhone will be a 40 dollar add on. If like me you get a discount like the military one, it will be taken off your iPhone plan. That means for me a loss of about 30 bucks a month. I don't know who I hate more now steve or bill gates.