Yep. While $40 is the same price I pay for my broadband at home, I can at least take this EDGE connection everywhere I can pick up Cingular/At&t's network. I guess the only time you'll lose it is when you're roaming on T-Mobile's network or don't have any network signal bars whatsoever.Poll: Will you still buy if a data plan is required?
For me it depends on the cost of the data plan. $40 a month for an EDGE connection is ridiculous. If they actually price this plan that high for speeds below 200 kbps (you'll probably see between 12 KB/s and 20 KB/s )I don't know if I could justify this purchase.Yep. While $40 is the same price I pay for my broadband at home, I can at least take this EDGE connection everywhere I can pick up Cingular/At&t's network. I guess the only time you'll lose it is when you're roaming on T-Mobile's network or don't have any network signal bars whatsoever.
Exactly, I cannot justify $40 extra per month.For me it depends on the cost of the data plan. $40 a month for an EDGE connection is ridiculous. If they actually price this plan that high for speeds below 200 kbps (you'll probably see between 12 KB/s and 20 KB/s )I don't know if I could justify this purchase.
I want to drink the kool-aid as much as everyone else, but paying over $20 a month for the trickle of data would be crazy.
True, it would be hard to turn back now. I am just hoping that if it is required, then maybe there will be multiple levels like $20 or $25 at the low end and then $40 for the high end.I think I have come too far now to turn around. I have paid $40 a month for data before so I am ready to do it again, but if it too ridiculous, like say $80 the odds of me still getting it are very slim.
Ahh very good point comcipher!I think what part of their problem is (or was if they've made up their mind) is that you would be offending the rest of your customers who are paying more for data if you price your plan less.
For example, if they put it at a reasonable $20 unlimited plan (like smartphone connect) you open it up to more customers and forward the plan of the phone revoloution. However, you also piss off your PDA (loosley defined as having a QWERTY keyboard rather then a number pad on a smartphone) plan customers by asking less for the same data.
So where do you put it?
Hopefully at the very affordable level of $20 a month, certainly nothing over $30, and $30 is still really expensive for a shitty EDGE connection.
Yep, but according to a Cingular/At&t source the price is going to be $39.99 for a required data plan. Now we know how At&t is going to get their increased revenue from this partnership.I think what part of their problem is (or was if they've made up their mind) is that you would be offending the rest of your customers who are paying more for data if you price your plan less.
For example, if they put it at a reasonable $20 unlimited plan (like smartphone connect) you open it up to more customers and forward the plan of the phone revoloution. However, you also piss off your PDA (loosley defined as having a QWERTY keyboard rather then a number pad on a smartphone) plan customers by asking less for the same data.
So where do you put it?
Hopefully at the very affordable level of $20 a month, certainly nothing over $30, and $30 is still really expensive for a shitty EDGE connection.
They will make money either way. When you have this many people signing up for voice line contracts alone you're making a ton of scratch. Especially with a 5 year exclusive deal with Cingular.Yep, but according to a Cingular/At&t source the price is going to be $39.99 for a required data plan. Now we know how At&t is going to get their increased revenue from this partnership.
yeah, I don't trust a lot of sources either, but this guy actually posted pics of the iPhone training manual yesterday. he's the real deal.They will make money either way. When you have this many people signing up for voice line contracts alone you're making a ton of scratch. Especially with a 5 year exclusive deal with Cingular.
That "source" is just like most sources right now. Until I hear something from Jobs on Monday at WWDC or see an actaul printed price from Cingular I wouldn't trust it. If they really want this to truly be a phone "revolution" and see people using their phones in a completly new and data-centric way, they had better not make the plan an exclusive $40 / month.
The PDA data plan they have now is geared more towards businesss people who need a public IP, want to VPN into a network and check their e-mail via Exchange. The iPhone is positioning itself as a new phone for the masses and is more media centric then work centric. It wants mass market appeal and a $40 a month unlimited plan for a trickle of 12 KB/s of data is freaking insane.
My thoughts exactly. If it turns out that there is a required $40/month data plan, that will turn off some people and leave more for us!It doesn't surprise me that a premium phone, like this, will require a premium data plan. Actually I expected a required $40 data plan. In a way, it's good because it keeps the iPhone out of reach from the kiddies.
You have to be a member of the Order of the BOHICA to get this plan.im buying the phone no matter what i just hope at and t uses vaseline for the data plan if you know what i mean