Update!
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I guess the old saying goes...
You can't make everyone happy.
It's funny, everytime someone finds out I have an iPhone they say
"No problems yet? But I heard that...."
and my response is..
"I love my iPhone, but you will always have people unhappy with something."
I guess for me the glass is half full. I look at the alternative. I could have a phone without internet, without weather checks, mapquest type thing.
In conclusion
I heart my iPhone
You can't make everyone happy.
It's funny, everytime someone finds out I have an iPhone they say
"No problems yet? But I heard that...."
and my response is..
"I love my iPhone, but you will always have people unhappy with something."
I guess for me the glass is half full. I look at the alternative. I could have a phone without internet, without weather checks, mapquest type thing.
In conclusion
I heart my iPhone
don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone too...I just think it could be better. Apple has never been about "well, at least it isn't as bad as the competition." It's always been about BLOWING the competition out of the water, and CHANGING the game.
The iPhone has the best GUI out there, but definitely needs some updates.
Are you truly satisfied without copy/paste, color-coded calanders, and the lack of ability to update MS office documents? If you are, that's totally cool, I'm not ragging on you, you have the right to your opinion. But I am personally NOT satisfied without those things, I think they are essential to being productive on a mobile smartphone.
This is my opinion, you have the right to your "glass half-full" opinion too.
-propynyl
Ya think? Do you think you could give them a couple of months to put something together? These ridiculous threads started the day after the iPhone went on sale.
Here's a novel idea, if the phone isn't what you want right now, don't buy it until it is. Why would you buy something then immediately start complaining about it and demanding updates?
You have to wonder where this instant gratification culture came from... "gimmie, gimmie, gimmie - now, now now!"
Umm, what makes you think their target audience was the businesss user? Since when is the iPod a businesss tool? That's what this device is, it's an iPod with a cell phone attached.
If you want a businesss tool, get a Blackberry. You really should look before you leap ya know.
Your anger makes me laugh!
The iPhone is supposed to be a smartphone, I'm offering up ways to make it behave like a smartphone. If Apple updates the iPhone, then great! I hope they do, because I think copy/paste kind of belongs in any device marketted as a smartphone!
If you wanna sling hate, be my guest, it doesn't offend me, but try and stay on topic. I'm discussing APPLE and you're discussing ME. This is the "iPhone forum", not the "Propynyl forum"...so lets keep this on topic, and about whether or not we think the iPhone will be updated...I say no, you say yes...Your opinion doesn't offend me, neither should mine offend you.
-propynyl
tharmsen is right; the first incarnation of the iPhone was/is not meant to be a businesss tool, thereforee it's missing some key businesss apps. This phone is basically for ppl who want a cool phone, an awesome video ipod, and a nifty internet device. There may be further models, or even updates to this model, that will appeal to businesss/power users. We all have to hurry up and wait.
Naw, not entirely true, Steve Jobs (and ATT) have both hinted that the iPhone would be a good tool for businesss: (although I do agree in its current state it is not necessarily a good businesss tool).
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QUOTES:
1) TITLE: "Should firms pick up the iPhone?"
EXCERPT: "...Despite hints from Apple chief Steve Jobs that the iPhone is being used by some businessses to access Exchange servers."
2) TITLE: "AT&T to target iPhone to enterprise" EXCERPT: "AT&T plans to market the iPhone to businesss users in addition to consumers but analysts aren’t recommending that enterprises supply workers with the phones."
Anyways, this is way off topic, you have your opinion, and I have mine. We all love our iPhones, and want to see them improve in the future, so no need to disagree too much about anything. I just wish Apple would fix some of those features lacking in version 1.01...we'll see, I hope they do.
-propynyl
Why doesn't it surprise me you sit around laughing at things that don't exist? Me, angry? LOL Sorry dude, I'm far from angry. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
LOL, I have stayed on topic. I'm addressing your points directly. Nice try, but you really should quell your anger.
The NoT Marketed to Business, Should Have Been an Indication!
I think one poster described the iPhone perfectly, by calling it a toy and not a tool. I also think that Apple misjudged the customer base of the iPhone. I really believe that Apple's target customer base, was well to do teenagers and young adults. Hence the, No Sale to businesss customer's policy. That policy was a bit of an indication from Apple, that the iPhone was NOT a businesss tool. I don't know if anyone remembers the first Windows Mobile device with a color screen from Sprint, (The Hitachi G-1000, gigantic but a workhorse), it came out about six years ago and runs circles around the iPhone. I think we all expected a lot more out of a (marketed as), revolutionary/breakthrough device than what we have gotten. The beautiful thin craftsmanship of the iPhone is being wasted, if one has to carry another PDA/Phone, just to cover what the iPhone doesn't do. I still love my iPhone for what it does, but I have certainly made it my after 5pm, recreational phone. Hopefully, Steve Jobs will realize the want of the businesss community for his product, and seriously upgrade the next iPhone. I'm sure from all the Complaints Apple hears on the iPhone each day, they have realized this...M
an ipod is pure recreation... Why would an iPhone be any different? With some updates helping out mms, cut/paste, and flash the iPhone would be perfect. For me.
Since you guys are a little OT, how do you multi-quote in your replies? I've always wondered.Why doesn't it surprise me you sit around laughing at things that don't exist? Me, angry? LOL Sorry dude, I'm far from angry. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
LOL, I have stayed on topic. I'm addressing your points directly. Nice try, but you really should quell your anger.
All Apple has to do is license wireless active sync from Microsoft so you can have exchange connectivity... this will solve a lot of their problems.
The other important issue would be opening up to 3rd party developers to create apps for the iPhone.
Just these two things would be an easy and important first step.
Apple need to learn to play in the sandbox with others.... Play ball APPLE, PLAY BALL!
Doesn't Play Well with Others
You know Steve Jobs wears one of those, "Doesn't Play Well with Others" tee shirts!
You know what.... Steve needs to grow up... Apple has a good thing going, but so did Sony with Betamax. You see where that ended up.
The whole reason Microsoft has been so successful is because they have always licensed their software with other companies... now, I'm not saying that Microsoft plays well with others, but com'mon... Apple doesn't even have their own working version of a wireless sync...
If they want businesss users, they need to play with businesss platforms... the entire businesss world is not going to change their format for syncing to appease Apple.... Apple needs to play ball!
Jon
The whole reason Microsoft has been so successful is because they have always licensed their software with other companies... now, I'm not saying that Microsoft plays well with others, but com'mon... Apple doesn't even have their own working version of a wireless sync...
If they want businesss users, they need to play with businesss platforms... the entire businesss world is not going to change their format for syncing to appease Apple.... Apple needs to play ball!
Jon
Can't We (Apple & Microsoft) Just Get Along!
I had to switch my long standing MSN email to Gmail, just because I got tired of going the "Backdoor" way, to get my MSN mail. I understand the feud between Steve and Bill, but come on guys try and work together for the customers sake. M
you know... i kinda feel the same way. i know we are all sitting around saying to ourselves that Apple will fix all the issues with the iPhone and add what is missing. simple thing is, no one knows if they actually will. it's been out about a month and a half and we've gotten our one update. when will we see another? who knows.... will we have ichat, MMS, etc... added? i don't know. nothing says it will. custom tones are very likely as we've seen pics with iTunes and iTunes contains the backbone for it, but the rest is a mystery. Apple could make money off selling ringtones through iTunes, and nothing else will make them money.
Don't Hold Your Breath
I'm starting to feel like there may be no major update either. From a businesss stand point, why release a major update? Apple has heard all the crying, they can just re engineer the iPhone, with everything people have said the current model lacks. Don't be surprised if, no major update, only iPhone 2nd Generation (600.00 more dollars). We can't really get angry, if this is what Apple decides. We (well, most of us anyway) understood (when we purchased the iPhone) that you always take a chance when you buy the first version of anything. Mark
You forgot #4 ... those, such as yourself that don't own the phone but like to talk about it.
I fall between the type 1 and 2 in that 3 item list. I too have been an Apple user since the Apple IIC. Overall I am content with the phone, but I do tend to agree that we will not see any major updates, just tweaks here and there. My list is somewhat short of things I would like to see or as I interpret as being missing since this is the most revolutionary device to hit the market (I think those are Steve's words). If the follow is added or corrected I think I will overall be happy rather than just content. I feedback this list every day too, which I am sure means they now ignore it.
All forms of volume are too low.
Maps lacks text/email function to send direction lists
Safari crashes often
There are no search abilities on the phone
Not compatible with 10.3.9
No cut and paste
No flash/Java
No MMS (this is beyond annoying)
Phone antenna is not strong, calls drop very often, does not appear to have the actual signal strength displayed all the time.
No voice dialing
More ring tones
MP3 ring tones/custom tones
Ability to hide the home screen and actually have the wallpaper/clock there. (1 home click = home, the second hides the secondary function icon rows)
Ability to remove/hide home screen icons.
Ability to save e-mail attachments
Ability to edit/save e-mail attachments
Ability to turn off the “slide to unlock”
All forms of volume are too low.
Maps lacks text/email function to send direction lists
Safari crashes often
There are no search abilities on the phone
Not compatible with 10.3.9
No cut and paste
No flash/Java
No MMS (this is beyond annoying)
Phone antenna is not strong, calls drop very often, does not appear to have the actual signal strength displayed all the time.
No voice dialing
More ring tones
MP3 ring tones/custom tones
Ability to hide the home screen and actually have the wallpaper/clock there. (1 home click = home, the second hides the secondary function icon rows)
Ability to remove/hide home screen icons.
Ability to save e-mail attachments
Ability to edit/save e-mail attachments
Ability to turn off the “slide to unlock”