lol, why would you assume I don't have an iPhone? Because I talk honestly about it?
I'll have you know, I waited 8 hours on iDay for my iPhone, and overall, I love it. That doesn't mean, however, I will gloss over its obvious flaws.
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I'll have you know, I waited 8 hours on iDay for my iPhone, and overall, I love it. That doesn't mean, however, I will gloss over its obvious flaws.
Me, Thinking as Steve Jobs RE: Update
It is a beautiful Monday morning in Cupertino, California. I (Steve) sit here in amazement of the great corporation, I have built. As I began to think about my larger than life wealth. I have a nagging feeling, my stock price was down all last week. I made tons of money on iDay and the following weeks. The iPhone craze is now starting to wane, what shall I do? I make a quick call to Apple's, customer support VP. I am happy to hear, there is a great reduction in the amount of complaint calls concerning the iPhone. I realize that, people have began to accept what the iPhone doesn't do and love what it does do.
I start to think though, what do I do about all the customers waiting for a major update? As I ponder that thought, I think deeply about my customer base (while always keeping the shareholders in mind). I have a large base of customers, new to Apple through an iPod or iPhone sale. I then, have an even larger base of "Apple Fanatics", that will buy and defend anything I place on the market. The one time Apple buyer, may or may not buy from me again. The "Apple Fanatic" will most certainly buy from me again. I love the "Apple Fanatics", I love the almost, cult following I have created, and I love their deep seated loyalty to Apple and myself. I would like to do something nice for them, in return for all their loyalty (like a major update). Ahh yes, but I have to stay on track here. I began this thought process because the stock price is down. The first time Apple buyers want in a software/hardware update, what amounts to a new iPhone. They have to be crazy, don't those people understand that updates do not drive up stock prices, new and improved item launches, do! I hate to screw my loyal "Apple Fanatic" customer base. I am a businesssman first though. I have a responsibility to the shareholders, sympathetic CEO's and companies do not last long. I rationalize in my mind (to help me sleep better at night), those fools (customers wanting a major update), should have never bought iPhone Gen 1. They should have understood, the first offering of anything is not the best. I take a sip of my highly charged "West Coast Java", it is then that I make my decision. There will be no major update, there will be an iPhone Gen 2 launch. Hmm, I might make a lot of iPhone owners angry with the decision. Oh what the hell, I will always have my very strong, very large, "Apple Fanatic" customer base. Let me make a mental note, I must throw in a free case with iPhone Gen 2 to thank them.
I will have to remember to call my bank and tell them to prepare for the windfall of cash that will be coming in, post iDay 2. I am so glad I thought this problem out so early in the morning. I am finding myself needing more and more time in the day to figure out how to spend ALL THE FREAKING CASH I HAVE! Maybe I'll call Bill (of Microsoft) later, we can't really work together as two companies, but he might have found new ways to spend all this cash. Ahh yes, life is certainly great. Wow, I must go now. I have 27 missed calls on my iPhone. How could that be? I have the volume turned all the way up. I must venture into the development department today and command them to fix my low volume. Hmm, maybe the customers were right, maybe there is a volume issue. Nah couldn't be, just a glitch in my phone only. I'm the freaking CEO, I should Know, The hell with all those whiners anyway....
I hope you have enjoyed my humorous yet possibly true scenario from Steve Jobs. I will again say, this is not true nor quoted by Steve. I just wrote how I would think if I were Steve...M
I would like to add a little humor/serious thought to this thread. Thank you in advance for indulging me. I (Mark) am going to play the role of Steve Jobs in this writing. This is only fiction!
It is a beautiful Monday morning in Cupertino, California. I (Steve) sit here in amazement of the great corporation, I have built. As I began to think about my larger than life wealth. I have a nagging feeling, my stock price was down all last week. I made tons of money on iDay and the following weeks. The iPhone craze is now starting to wane, what shall I do? I make a quick call to Apple's, customer support VP. I am happy to hear, there is a great reduction in the amount of complaint calls concerning the iPhone. I realize that, people have began to accept what the iPhone doesn't do and love what it does do.
I start to think though, what do I do about all the customers waiting for a major update? As I ponder that thought, I think deeply about my customer base (while always keeping the shareholders in mind). I have a large base of customers, new to Apple through an iPod or iPhone sale. I then, have an even larger base of "Apple Fanatics", that will buy and defend anything I place on the market. The one time Apple buyer, may or may not buy from me again. The "Apple Fanatic" will most certainly buy from me again. I love the "Apple Fanatics", I love the almost, cult following I have created, and I love their deep seated loyalty to Apple and myself. I would like to do something nice for them, in return for all their loyalty (like a major update). Ahh yes, but I have to stay on track here. I began this thought process because the stock price is down. The first time Apple buyers want in a software/hardware update, what amounts to a new iPhone. They have to be crazy, don't those people understand that updates do not drive up stock prices, new and improved item launches, do! I hate to screw my loyal "Apple Fanatic" customer base. I am a businesssman first though. I have a responsibility to the shareholders, sympathetic CEO's and companies do not last long. I rationalize in my mind (to help me sleep better at night), those fools (customers wanting a major update), should have never bought iPhone Gen 1. They should have understood, the first offering of anything is not the best. I take a sip of my highly charged "West Coast Java", it is then that I make my decision. There will be no major update, there will be an iPhone Gen 2 launch. Hmm, I might make a lot of iPhone owners angry with the decision. Oh what the hell, I will always have my very strong, very large, "Apple Fanatic" customer base. Let me make a mental note, I must throw in a free case with iPhone Gen 2 to thank them.
I will have to remember to call my bank and tell them to prepare for the windfall of cash that will be coming in, post iDay 2. I am so glad I thought this problem out so early in the morning. I am finding myself needing more and more time in the day to figure out how to spend ALL THE FREAKING CASH I HAVE! Maybe I'll call Bill (of Microsoft) later, we can't really work together as two companies, but he might have found new ways to spend all this cash. Ahh yes, life is certainly great. Wow, I must go now. I have 27 missed calls on my iPhone. How could that be? I have the volume turned all the way up. I must venture into the development department today and command them to fix my low volume. Hmm, maybe the customers were right, maybe there is a volume issue. Nah couldn't be, just a glitch in my phone only. I'm the freaking CEO, I should Know, The hell with all those whiners anyway....
I hope you have enjoyed my humorous yet possibly true scenario from Steve Jobs. I will again say, this is not true nor quoted by Steve. I just wrote how I would think if I were Steve...M
I was also thinking of the possibility of Apple making major updates for the iPhone but making customers buy them like we do with OS major updates... Just a thought. I'm sure praying for some major updates though! It just seems like Apple would be sacrificing a lot of customers if they only did gen 2 iPhone and no major updates for gen 1.
On point, exactly. High speed internet makes me impatient in a lot of ways. We should call this iPhone bashing and complaining..."mobile rage". Much like road rage.
Everyone here had 14 days to decide whether or not to keep it. Yes, there are shortcomings. I deal with them the best I can. But dealing with them on a beautiful iPhone compared to dealing with them on a clunky Treo, is worth the tradeoff.
Guys, just give it time. Apple isn't going to release "passifier" updates and possibly upset the balance of software/hardware compatibility on the phone without testing it extensively. Just give it time.
Why do you guys/gals always call other people's comments bashing? You are entitled to how you feel and so is the other poster. Instead of rushing to call someone a "basher" why not take the time to read up on "OPEN DIALOG"..M
Thank you!
On one hand people are told, should they have any doubts about buying an iPhone, "updates will come, don't worry!" Yet when they make the slightest comment about updates it is called bashing.
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Mike
^^^I Agree
(We have the right to our opinions without being called "bashers." There is a lot of good ideas being thrown around in this thread, so why lower it to the lowest common denominator? No one here is saying they don't like they iPhone, we are simply offering criticism, and predictions for the future)
(We have the right to our opinions without being called "bashers." There is a lot of good ideas being thrown around in this thread, so why lower it to the lowest common denominator? No one here is saying they don't like they iPhone, we are simply offering criticism, and predictions for the future)
Apple pouring its efforts into GAMES!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08122007/businesss/nintendo_and_apple_platforms_are_gaming_each_other_businesss_damon_brown.htm
It appears now that Apple may be putting its effort into making games for the iPhone, instead of going back to the basics and fixing some of it's current shortcommings.
In my opinion, Apple is looking for more ways to sell us things (like ringtones, games, and MP3s) instead of adding the basic features we need like Copy/paste, color-coded calanders, and MS office support.
Apple should have their programmars work on making the iPhone more stable, and productive, and then once they have the rock-solid device the iPhone has the potential to be, they should indulge in further capital ventures.
This is juts my opinion, you have the right to disagree.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08122007/businesss/nintendo_and_apple_platforms_are_gaming_each_other_businesss_damon_brown.htm
It appears now that Apple may be putting its effort into making games for the iPhone, instead of going back to the basics and fixing some of it's current shortcommings.
In my opinion, Apple is looking for more ways to sell us things (like ringtones, games, and MP3s) instead of adding the basic features we need like Copy/paste, color-coded calanders, and MS office support.
Apple should have their programmars work on making the iPhone more stable, and productive, and then once they have the rock-solid device the iPhone has the potential to be, they should indulge in further capital ventures.
This is juts my opinion, you have the right to disagree.
How on Earth do you get all of that from the article? Where does it say that Apple has given up on other features of the iPhone in favor of games?!?! Do you think Apple employs one programmar for the iPhone and if he's focused on game development the other ideas/improvements get pushed to the back burner?
It's not that I disagree, but real games! Whoa, I might actually trade cut-and-paste for that.
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Mike
Please Stop!
You sir, should probably seek employment with Apple. Anyone who says anything that is even in the least bit against Apple. You vigorously jump on them in defense of Apple. I think you search the threads looking to tell someone they are wrong (since you have in so many threads). Once again, EVERYONE HAS AND IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION. If everyone thought the same, there would be no need for forums. Please give it a rest dude, you are making yourself look like a childish trouble maker! M
Wow, getting a little disgruntled there? Just as you have a right to your opinion, I have a right to mine. I find it kind of amusing how you seem to forget that. Everyone has a right to their opinion as long as it jives with yours, right? LOL Brilliant.
Let me see, you get to make 30 posts a day telling the world how broken the iPhone is and if I respond and disagree, I look "childish" according to you.
You're right, this is a discussion forum. What makes you think a discussion consists of a group of people all sitting around agreeing with each other?
But please enlighten me, where in that article did the poster get that Apple has dropped development of bug fixes and additional features in favor of games? Hummmmm? C'mon, the [SIZE=-1]ad hominem attacks are fun and all, but surely you have something more to offer.[/SIZE]
Oh, and I might add that name calling is "childish" behavior.
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You guys are gonna get this thread locked if ya don't get back on topic! I know cause I was one of the guys who got banned for 3 days last week over that "Why Are we not allowed to Complain?" thread. Tharmsen, you're usually pretty level-headed, so don't let this other guy get to you. Just a little advice, take it or leave it. On topic, I think there will be updates, or at least one update, to fix most of our phone issues, in the near future.
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I'm not letting these guys bait me with their insults and name calling.
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First, I never called you any name. I suggested what you were making yourself look like (there is a difference). Second I never said you did not have a right to your opinion. I am merely stating, that you ridicule everyone that is not an Apple Fan boy (now that was calling you a name, but in a good way), such as yourself. When you ridicule some people it makes them hesitant to post, thereforee stifling their thoughts (the whole reason for a forum). Everyone interprets what they read or see differently (kind of like Fox News, We report you decide). It is not right of you to make your opinion the gospel, it is only that, your opinion. You should have read what the poster said ("only my Opinion") were his words. He did not say it was fact or what Apple intended to do. You read a little of what he said and took off with it. You have done it in many post, and there is no need for it. You did not inform or help anyone with your comments, you only lashed out at the poster. Take it down a thousand dude, we all clearly understand your alliance and fanaticism concerning Apple. You do not have to continue to beat us over the head with it in every thread, Good Day, Sir....M
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Excuse me, but my expressing my opinion is stifling others? What about their comments stifling me? If I say something in defense of the iPhone then I'm trying to preach a "gospel" but if I jump on the bandwagon and repost endlessly that "no updates will ever come from Apple" then I'm just expressing my opinion? Please forgive me if I don't buy that.
Have I ever told someone not to express themselves like you're telling me not to do right now? No.
I don't start threads saying "the iPhone is God's gift to the telecommunications industry" but when I see someone post something that's nothing more than a malicious rumor intended to dissuade people from liking their phone or from buying an iPhone like "LOOK! Apple is stopping all development for the iPhone and focusing on games!" then I'm the person "acting childish"? Oh, and I'm sorry but telling me my opinion is "making me look like a childish trouble maker" is name calling. If I said "your opinion makes you look like an **** (insert your favorite colorful metaphor here)" wouldn't you take offense? I bet you would.
Now, how about you stop deriding me for expressing my opinion and practice what you preach? Everyone has a right to their opinion, right? I assume that includes me.
As for me "beating everyone over the head", LOL... yeah, right. If I report over and over and over again that the iPhone is broken, or endlessly repeat "I want cut/paste" or claim that "no updates are coming" in countless threads... I'm just expressing my opinion. But if I respond to those comments then I'm beating people over the head? This is getting almost comical.
How about we stop this silliness and get back to discussing the iPhone?
Any Differences since the Update?
I'm all for that, we both have spoke. I have a question, have you or anyone else noticed any differences in their iPhone since the update. I did not totally restore my phone before adding the update. I thereforee haven't seen any changes. Has anyone noticed any difference in any of the functions? Also do the people in this thread think it would be better if I do a full restore. I'm mostly concerned about my volume level. I never heard an increase in volume after the update. I can live with everything else. I also carry my PPC-6700 with me for tasks the iPhone won't do..M
There is one massive thread that discusses the update and the features of it, some features are imagined and some real. The only thing I've noticed is that my phone has officially crashed once post update and it didn't do that before hand... but that doesn't mean anything really.
http://forums.everythingicafe.com/threads/official-iphone-software-update-1-01-discussion.6646/
It's a long read...
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Oh, and I don't believe a full restore will be required unless you've hacked your phone with Jailbreak. I did have iPhoneringtonemaker installed prior to the update and it didn't force a restore. If you do force a restore and apply the update, I doubt you'll see any features you wouldn't have seen without the restore.
I have lots of respect for the hackers, but no hacks on my iPhone. If Apple doesn't put it out, my iPhone won't have it. Thanks for the info, gotta run now. BTW: glad we could have an intelligent debate and move on. Maybe the whole world needs to take a page out of our book...Thanks again..M